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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Europa is too pure and regulated to be hegemony.

Do you think the US became a superpower by being kind and egalitarian and taking it slow? Nah, they came out the gate swinging, uppercut to Hiroshima and a roundhouse to Nagasaki, and it only got worse from there. They watched the old European powers withering under the weight of colonialism and insurrection in Indochina and southeast Asia and said "I'll have a piece of that".

You don't become Hegemon by standardizing power grids and phasing out coal. You become Hegemon by selling your soul to the MIC, spinning up black site torture rooms in countries most people don't even know the names of, funnelling guns and drugs to everyone who will take them, and bringing a fucking bandolier of hand grenades to every knife fight.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

It has a lot more to do with humans being humans universally, everywhere you go, and people are as vulnerable to Putin's and other wealthy crime lord's tactics in Europe as they are in fucking Crimea or Venezuela, it's just that people broadly think themselves too immune to social messaging to ever vote against their own best interest.

Such as dissolving the largest economic and social union Europe and maybe the world has ever seen just because enough people saw scary stories on TV about what would happen if they didn't vote for Brexit.

A "world order" is literally the thing we need most to secure our future, and it's the one thing individual people are most scared of, because the people who want to retain power are doing everything they can, without limits, to preserve that power and sow fear in every dumbass out there with a TV or computer.

[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe Europe doesn't need to be a hegemony. Maybe instead Europe should just be a self-reliant world power, capable of standing up for itself against other large powers like the US, China, and Russia.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

capable of standing up for itself against other large powers like the US, China, and Russia.

To do that, it needs to consolidate power in some way, a way to compile all resources of united/allied countries and leverage them against other powers. IE: they would need to be hegemonic in the exercises of power necessary to maintain control.

People are repulsed by the word "hegemony" because it's scary and often used to describe authoritarians, but we literally need to get to a single-world-government as soon as possible to secure our survival as a species. The problem is right now if we set that up, the cretins of the world would vote the very worst people to lead that world-government because the very worst people keep shoving propaganda up the asses of our most stupid people and we keep letting them.

[–] Juliee@lemm.ee 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I must say that I am prepared to die to defend Europe. It is maybe one of the last causes truly worth fighting for

If even quarter of people feel like me then we cannot be beat, we cannot be defeated. We will meet there on the Vistula river to stand against the darkness

It will only be after my cold dead body that the orcs will destroy this beautiful land. The mountains, the fields, the cities, rivers and forests, the peaceful, good people.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Juliee@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

A duty is more fitting word. We ought to protect things that are rare and precious. If everyone simply runs away before aggressor then everything is lost for certain. An orc won’t stop just because you go on your knees and hope they will have mercy. They are not people, they are orcs.

I won’t judge those that won’t be there if the time comes because I understand them perfectly. However, if we all run there will be no one to stop the enemy from destroying our remarkable, precious Europe.
If we just give it up without a fight then we would betray everything we believe in.

This isn’t just about land and borders. It is fight for European values against the darkness of Russia. A struggle so our idea of the just, equal and diverse society prevails. We must protect this idea at all costs.

Anyone who is enjoying the accepting queer community and tolerance of Europe should consider to be there if the time comes. This is what we will fight for and die for if needed.

Not because some politician tells us to do it but because there is no other place in the world where people truly can be themselves with dignity and without fear. There is nowhere to run, this is the first and maybe the last place where you can be truly free.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Get this, there's already a thing called the European Union - almost like we're already pretty united! :)

I don't really think further unification is the goal here.

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 2 points 19 hours ago

USA misunderstand that European State are nowhere similar to US states. If you expect Germany France and Poland to go federal and have common institution for security defense etc.. let me tell you it will not happen, we were at war 80 years ago and we're not even having the same language. Ain't no way do I'm trusting anybody else than France to represent and defend France

[–] Juliee@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

We are not truly united, not yet. The shadow from the east seeks to divide us and corrupt us. Only together we can face it. So sharpen your weapons and train your body because before long we will have to defend our way of life.

The Enemy is already trying to damage our morale. He wants to leave us divided, indecisive, feeble. If we show to be united and determined we will end this war before it comes to our door

[–] SilentFury@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

Only here to say that this picture REALLY makes the scandanavian countries look like a droopy dick n balls.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Anybody who knows the actual history and current reality of european imperialism will not want this at all.

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yo when tf did Switzerland join?

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 4 points 19 hours ago

Same year that UK rejoined lmao.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We just have to through the Bell riots and WW3, but then it’s all tea. Earl gray. Hot. From thee

[–] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

WW3 is scheduled for later this decade

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unite, but first, launch Orban into space, one-way-ticket kind-of way.

[–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 77 points 1 day ago (25 children)

reminder that the world did not enjoy it the last time Europeans were super powerful

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Europe is the biggest provider of independence days !

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, they all hated each other and their internal beer hall brawl spilled out over the borders. It wasn’t that Europe was any kind of united force. Maybe it’s time. We’re fucked in the US, now.

Though I gotta admit it’s ironic AF that the Allies set up Germany with a far better constitution/Grundgesezt and government framework than our own Constitution which ended up essentially frozen because politics have gotten so bad that opening it up would have probably destroyed whatever good remained in it thanks to talibangelicals and corporate money.

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think they were talking about colonialism, not WW2

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Ah, yeah that was a bad time for the rest of the world too.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 38 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The top US export is oil.

If you want to do something, wean yourself off oil. Big push for solar, wind, and anything else that doesn't rely on digging up bits of dinosaurs.

Electric vehicles, public transport, bikes, walking.

And as an added bonus, the world gets a little cleaner. Might be important, you know.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

This is what I always have to bring up when people go "bUt cHInA!". So what? Energy independence is valuable and should be pushed for.

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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 day ago (11 children)

EU already absorbed Switzerland in this pic despite them not wanting it, so there's that.

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[–] verstra@programming.dev 57 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Power corrupts. No single country should be a global superpower

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago (8 children)

That's fine, Europe is several countries.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Weird map. The non-Union Balkan states and Norway are cut out, but Switzerland is filled in.

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[–] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The almighty Nordic cock and balls

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