Biggest problem with Bernie. He's been beaten for years into somehow believing the liberal lie that we can all be a family if we just vote hard enough. He points out the bullshit well, but then just connects it to voting for more democrats. There needs to be a call for a new workers parry. We need a new party, not a new democrat.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Math & Chaos theory says you have to get rid of FPtP voting before that can happen.

There is a reason the GOP is making other voting methods illegal in states they have control over.

Then, even if you manage that, those parties have to do the work at a local level. The Democratic Socialists seem to be the only 3rd party that understands that. The rest of them are nothing more than novelty parties or outright spoilers.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This is why local elections mean so much. You need to put in people that are going to fight like Bernie for us. It's the only way.

Trump and the Republicans are pissing off so many people, we'll see how this plays out. Midterms are going to crash and burn for the Republicans. Not everywhere, but in a lot of places (like Wisconsin).

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 37 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

fingers crossed for this weekend's federal election in Australia to go in a similar trajectory

[–] epicstove@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Gotta get trump to start talking about annexing Australia. That'll help.

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

We're gonna call it "Southwest Hawaii".

[–] bob_lemon 4 points 5 hours ago

Petition to rename NSW to New South Wisconsin.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bernie thinks there will actually be another real election.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They were cheering "trump 2028" at a 100 day rally yesterday.

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Actual Nazis

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 81 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

It breaks my heart that Sanders is the person we needed to turn this shitshow around, and was knifed in the back by his "Compatriots."

A good man, fucked by a shit system.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 28 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I remember the cries of 'Is Bernie Sanders "Presidential" enough?' in 2015, and then America electing Trump, and shaking my fucking head.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 4 points 2 hours ago

“But he’s so oooooooollllllldddd.”

God job, democrats.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

His own party knifed him in the back, and pushed Clinton.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 4 hours ago

Of course. It was "her turn".

The DNC has it's values, and the likes of Bernie don't represent them. If AOC ever gets within spitting distance of real power, the whole thing will degenerate into messy infighting, like UK's Labour did when Corbyn got power.

[–] crumbguzzler5000 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I remember watching this show called the circus back in 2015 and it tracked all the political shiftings which were happening in the lead up to the big race. Needless to say I lost interest once Bernie wasn't selected to run the party, shit country that will never fight for their own best interests.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I lost interest once Bernie wasn't selected to run the party

This is what EVERYBODY doesn't understand. The DNC is NEVER going to select Bernie because he is NOT a Democrat. He is, and always has been, an Independant.

The presidential nomination is the highest award a party can give to a member, and they are going to give it to a loyal member who has supported the party, raised money for them, praised their actions, etc. Bernie has done none of that. He may caucus with the Dems, but he doesn't raise money for them, and he has often been very critical of Democrats.

He's NOT a Democrat, and there was never a time when the Democrats would give him the nomination, no matter how many votes he got in the primary. The last thing the Dems want is for a non-Dem to step up and fix the country, and prove how ineffective they've been in every Democratic administration.

[–] Nikls94@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For over 10 years I’ve read that a lot of people want Bernie Sanders as president, yet I’ve never seen him on the news over here on the other side of the globe.

He seems like a guy who cares for the people and plans ahead that other people in charge continue his plans, Democrats and Republicans alike.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

That's because he is a true socialist, and not a corporate minion.

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[–] rauls4@lemm.ee 86 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Cute. He thinks there will be an election.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Even Russia has elections.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Of course there will. It'll just be illegal to vote for anyone except Trump.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah and you can buy a hat to show your support for the regime

https://www.trumpstore.com/product/trump-2028-hat/

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The shirt is even worse.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 38 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

there will be.

the republicants know that when turnout is high, they lose. society and reality lean to the left. that's why they do all the registration and voter suppression and put up as many obstacles as they can to access the ballot box.

there will need to be historic and unprecedented voter participation in every state and in every district to make up for all that right-wing maga bullshit that tries to keep people from being able to vote.

[–] DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone 43 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

I honestly thought he was going to lose by an embarrassing landslide last time. I wasn't just hoping, I was convinced from here in Australia. Heck I even put $100 on Kamala, first time in my life betting on politics.

Strange times indeed.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Also in Australia. It blew my mind. Seriously. I think it broke me a little bit to realise how monumentally fucking STUPID people en masse are. I mean, I kinda suspected it all along, but I was clearly unable to even imagine the actual scale of it.

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[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Same from here in South Africa. Reddit had me fooled that we were about to finally enter a period where this fucking orange painted clown isn't stinking up the news with his shit filled diaper on a daily basis, after like 10 long years of it.

I was expecting the inbred hillbillies to still vote for Trump but I didn't realise how many closeted inbred hillbillies there were in the USA.

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I bet $50 on her for my own peace of mind, but I knew I'd lose it. She was a late stage afterthought to stem the hemorrhaging created by Biden being a senile entitlement president. We have to get the notion that NOBODY is owed the presidency in this country. It's either earned or stolen.

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Trump will just sign an EO claiming that the nation is in crisis and fair elections are therefore not possible.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Like how much have the right yelled about elections being rigged and unfair and corrupt and so on? They're obviously setting up the rhetoric to take control and 'fix' the 'problem', because 'obviously' everyone supports trump (or else...)

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Everybody here saying there won't be an election in 2028 is going to vote lesser evil again.

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There is no plan B.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What's your plan A?

[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

We're on plan A. We need a plan B.

[–] Embargo@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago

I'm really hoping that this translates to Australia. We currently have our main conservative party enlisting literal Christian cultists to intimidate the centre and left volunteers at certain electorates.

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