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[–] Warehouse@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Check the vote totals from 2021 to 2025. The NDP switched to Liberals and the PPC switched to the CPC. That's why the CPC won.

So, basically, the Liberals didn't switch and the NDP switched to the wrong party.

[–] tleb@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

I think the only people looking at riding projections or riding history are us nerds who discuss politics on lemmy. I think strategic voting in the general public is very real, but it seems to more take the form of "I normally vote NDP and will vote Liberal this time" rather than digging into the politics of their riding.

[–] Vix@pawb.social 6 points 11 hours ago

Insert Obligatory Ranked Choice Voting Should Always be Used

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago
[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Would PR have fixed this, though? Or could those votes for Mike Morrice, who worked hard for his riding and deserved another session in Parliament, simply have gone to elect some other Green in a floating seat?

With a fixed number of seats, we can't all get the representatives we want. Members of a party are not fungible.

[–] ibelieveinthehousehippo@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people would feel free to vote for the representative they truly want instead of feeling forced to vote strategically against someone they don't want

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That doesn't really address my point. Yes, voting patterns would have been different. But lets say this is how the vote turned out.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 24 points 18 hours ago

really sad that FPTP here led to the inevitable outcome: the only party that shouldn’t have won did win

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Also, why the fuck would you vote NDP in a riding where the Greens actually have a chance (or vice versa)?

Their platforms have way more in common than they differ.

[–] sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Yeah that's exactly what I thought would happen. Come in here thinking "of course, people will find a way to blame the NDP here instead of the liberals" instantly proved right.

NDP incumbent beaten by people moving to liberals? Those NDP voters, who still had more than the liberals, should've voted libral. Green voters move to the Librals against the incombant? Nah, those dastardly NDP caused this. Cons win by a landslide? Somehow, you guessed it, NDPs fault

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago

I'm not blaming the NDP voters in this riding instead of the Liberal voters, I'm blaming them alongside the Lib voters.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 hours ago
[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 23 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

This angers me. How can you not understand the concept of vote splitting, and vote against a well-supported (and deserving) incumbent? For shame.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 17 points 18 hours ago

either way it’s bad: either vote splitting happens or people vote strategically and not actually what they want

FPTP is a fucking scourge

[–] moody@lemmings.world 14 points 19 hours ago

I'd argue that a pretty large proportion of voters know nothing about who they're voting for besides the party they represent.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you're not blaming the voter. All blame lies in the politician, the moment they put their name on the poll this will 100% happen. They should've done some homework to prevent this.

[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Yes, the party and the politician are the root cause, but I do hold some expectations for the voter as well. If we're getting people out to vote even if they're entirely ignorant of the process and outcome, I don't see that as a win.

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Anything* But Conservative (* some conditions apply). 🤪