this post was submitted on 29 Apr 2025
613 points (99.0% liked)

politics

23250 readers
2922 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm deadly serious here as a British person .... what the fuck is wrong with you people? Your country's been taken over by a fucking fascist, and half of you are clapping like seals.

This is disgusting, and you need to know we don't see you as two political parties over here. We see America as America. You're all doing this.

Stop saying but the right wing and fucking do something about it. If it was here, we would have hung them all by now.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If you want to get real about it, the short answer: it's too early.

If you look at every successful ousting of a corrupting party in modern history, it never starts with pitchforks or guns this early. Start too early, and they have a reason to suspend the laws in effect that are slowing them down. In essence, if one of them gets killed, thousands of US citizens are killed, or worse, just to prove a point.

Second, you have to allow them time to erode any popular support they may have. As noted above, going too hard too early gives them a chance to pull a Hitler and do a "SEEEE??? WE NEED TO STOP THEM ALL!!! I WAS RIGHT!". Not the best place to start when something like 30% of the population may be diehard (literally) supporters. Shit will go south for everyone super fast.

Lastly, every element in this group is already doing the hard part for the rest of us: proving they are absolutely incapable of running a country. The more that people see this and come to understand and detach from that alignment is a good thing.

The bad part of all it: it takes time. Just making a dramatic point isn't going to change minds. Allowing these woefully incapable and idiotic pieces of shit to ruin an entire country's lives may unfortunately be what it's going to take before the military folks step away from them, their supporters, businesses, and as much as I fucking hate to say it, his billionaire buddies who all belong in prison right now. They all need to detach from that teat first before any meaningful and drastic movements can be made.

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's actually a very good point mate I think he might already be aiming for the ss bit faster than you can react though might have to do preemptive action to at least slow the process.

One thing I feel is lacking is an organised resistance I see aoc on tv and it looks great but the rest of her party are mostly shit.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you think he pardoned all the J6 people?

He plans to deputize them at some point and let them run wild. He won't try to invoke military control at first, because every nation that has the ability will wipe them out faster than they can react. Again, these people are dumb as hell.

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago
[–] BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As a US person, all I've wanted to do is kill myself or do something drastic while doing it.

Why haven't I? I don't want my life to be a giant politcal statement. I don't want to be responsible for the millions of people in the US, and the billions around the globe. I don't want to make a mistake and inadvertly ruin my family's life. I'm a 20 year old college student who was naively interested in electronics, only to see the tech industry is just as vile as real life.

I'm scared, I'm anxious, and I'll admit that I'm a massive bitch. I guess I leave this comment behind because I don't know what to do with these feelings, but I know that if I keep playing ignorant and stay silent that things will only get worst.

If this were to happen in England, I'd hope you would all hang them too. But I would understand if you don't, because we're all human, and I'd still like to be empathetic in these very hard times.

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So fucking fight go to marches leaflet do all the legal shit and if any one tells you to stop beat the shit out of them killing your self over fash cunts is stupid stay alive to hurt them more the longer you live the less people turn to fashism you have a job to do soilder don't fucking quit the fight just started

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Just wanted to add to this I'm a 3 tour vet with PTSD I'm done now mate if this happens here I'll hang them myself it's a.soilders job not yours

. Yours is to change minds one at a fucking time if you have to make them see it

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

we would have hung them all by now.

/c/iamverybadass@lemmy.ca

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I legitimately am bad ass in fact I'm very bad ass I once did a really cool jump on my bmx and all the girls wanted to kiss me after

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Per the report, "One mother who was about to be deported was allowed less than two minutes on the phone with her husband to figure out what would become of her 2-year-old U.S. citizen son," while one of the other mothers "wasn’t allowed to speak with attorneys or family members before she was deported, accompanied by her U.S.-born children," despite ICE agents knowing the child had stage 4 cancer.

I've got no words.

Every single individual involved, from the lowly ICE agent "just following orders," all the way to Trump and his Kapo Stephen Miller, needs to see punishment for this shit.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 133 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People ought to deny ICE service for a start. Anyone in their vicinity can contribute and nothing is too small.

If they want anything from you, it's your duty to make sure they can't have it.

If they order a sandwich, they should be told the sandwich maker is broken today. Every day. If they need a car repair, that part will take six months to arrive. When they pay for electricity, their payment was misplaced. Their garages should be blocked by parked cars. The garbage truck should accidentally drive past their property again this week. Etc.

Don't be an ICE collaborator.

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

At this point, if you're not actively fighting fascism, you are part of the problem. No one in America is allowed to sit this one out. It's too late.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Interesting idea but considering that they're not wearing uniforms or badges most of the time how do you know who's ICE?

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

NGL this is kinda funny

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 day ago

IMHO someone on Tor should create a public registry. If they're doing nothing wrong they have nothing to hide.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ptz@dubvee.org 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"I'm sorry, Mr. ICE person, but I don't agree with your lifestyle choices and cannot serve you."

[–] Steve@startrek.website 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The game board has already been flipped over, you cant win now by waving the rule book.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Klear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

No more Mr. ICE guy.

[–] Vince@lemmy.world 128 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Damn, how do you deport a kid with cancer and not even pause to think of you're doing the right thing

[–] A_norny_mousse 12 points 1 day ago

When the time of reckoning comes they'll say "We were just following orders. We're so sorry!"

But right now they say "We're following Trump's orders! America, fuck yeah!"

And they don't think, they don't empathize. They only feel their side of the story.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Well, that kid's mom had tattoos, which makes her part of a criminal gang. If the kid didn't want to be deported, they should have represented themselves in court.

Is a thing that I've legitimately heard reich-wing proto-nazis say.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I feel like doxing ICE agents will become a thing at some point.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

be the change you wish to see in the world.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let me know how I can help.

[–] parody@lemmings.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Deleting your account if that wasn’t TORposted

Instead of real activism I might just keep reminding ourselves, everything we do online should be considered posted under our names + emailed to Cashmoney Pawtel, subj line: “domestic terrorist 👇”

Wonder when soft bottomfeeder commenters like me will get Gitmo’d (CECOT’d). First they’re coming for Kilmar & the Palestinian grad student, next…

(I’m really milquetoast I just can’t imagine free speech is going to last very long even for privileged birthright citizens with birthright parents)

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It gets a bit more complicated when that four year old is a member of tren de agagua.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We are all tren de agagua on this blessed day

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

And that’s the same people who define themselves as pro-life…

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

They do what the average conservative everywhere does: Convince themselves that most people secretly agree with what they are doing. They truly and honestly believe over two thirds of the country want them to do that.

That's why they keep talking about conspiracies involving someone controlling elections, the government etc. because reality doesn't match up with their views. And they don't think they can be wrong, so they conclude that it has to be some shadow organization that is going against the people.

It's also why they keep talking about themselves as if they are revolutionary fighters going against a great evil.

[–] seemefeelme@infosec.pub 8 points 1 day ago

Deporting the kid contributed to a statistic that they are publicly presenting as positive action, which is allowing them to cling to power. That's it. That is the banality of evil.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›