I don't understand why authorities say this is not a terrorist attack
The guy clearly did this on purpose. Maybe you need to belong to a terrorism organization to do a terrorist attack?
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I don't understand why authorities say this is not a terrorist attack
The guy clearly did this on purpose. Maybe you need to belong to a terrorism organization to do a terrorist attack?
Same old...
Oklahoma City bombing was the most transparent, blantant systemic statement of this early in the current "what is terrorism" cycle 3 decades ago. White dude on a farm amass explosives, premeditate and take out a building. Terrorism not or hardly ever mentioned.
Meanwhile we're to the point Trump's new DOJ is saying people who shoot paintballs at Tesla dealerships should be tried as terrorists.
Beware anyone using the word as it's now, more than ever, completely politicized.
White dudes on a farm amass explosives, premeditate and take out a building.
I'm not saying it was or wasn't terrorism, but nothing you mentioned here indicates it was.
Welp, whatever you do, don't Google it.
"McVeigh believed the US had no business extending its influence around the world or becoming entangled in foreign wars when white working-class Americans from industrial cities such as Buffalo, his home town, were suffering – an early expression of Trump’s America First ideology, which won him tens of millions of blue-collar votes last November.
McVeigh’s favourite book, a white supremacist power fantasy called The Turner Diaries, blamed a cabal of Jews, black people and internationalists for perverting America’s true destiny – a sentiment now finding coded expression in Trump’s twin wars on immigration and on diversity, equity and inclusion."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/19/timothy-mcveigh-oklahoma-bombing-far-right-1995
It specifically wasn't labeled as terrorism at the time as it was a military Vet, pro-gun, anti-government, racist, white dude from the Midwest. And we can't call them terrorists because we have too many of them right? It would be an admission of the disgusting, rot at the core of many of our country men's hearts. That is the very long explanation of why the comic above it captures so well the racists determination of whether an event is "terrorist" or not in our media. They struggled to label January 6th what it was.
Welp, whatever you do, don’t Google it.
Not relevant to my point. I didn't say I don't know if it's terrorism, merely that the observations you provided didn't support the claim and weren't really relevant to whether the action was terrorism. Providing such irrelevant observations made it unclear what you thought "terrorism" even is.
Please, elucidate on your point? It's not clear to me what point you're trying to make.
From what I've read he was known to police for mental health issues. I think it's not considered a terrorist attack because it wasn't like a planned hate crime. It really seems like he had a mental break and this was very much an opportunity attack (there had been a vehicle gate in place up until shortly before he did this, as they were clearing out the festival).
He might've done it "intentionally" in a psychotic state, but it wasn't a "deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims" (definition of a terrorist attack)
@garbagebagel @lgsp
The belief that he and his car should have priority over pedestrians is a political view. Laws are made regarding the rights of pedestrians vs drivers. I think it could be a politically motivated hate crime though maybe not about race and more about social status. Maybe he just didn't want to wait or take a detour.
I see your point. From what I've read, I personally don't believe that was his motivation, but at this point only he would know what that was.
Ok, this makes sense, thank you
Terrorism isn't anything that causes fear. It is the intention to reach political goals through fear and violence.
No terror weapon is easier to obtain than a car.
No terror weapon is easier to obtain than a car.
Where I live (British Columbia) it’s quite the opposite it seems, I’ve gone for my road test twice and failed both times whereas going for my Possession & Acquisition license (firearms license) I passed no problem.
Figure that backwards ass logic out.
It's up to 11 now.