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"Must Try" distros and DEs? (lemmy.sdf.org)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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Hey folks! I'm getting a fresh laptop for the first time in about a decade (Framework 16) in a couple of months and am looking forward to doing some low-level tinkering both on the OS and hardware. I'm planning to convert into a "cyberdeck" with quick-release hinges for the screen since I usually use an HMD, built-in breadboard, and other hardware hacking fun.

On the OS, I'm planning to try NixOS as a baremetal hypervisor (KVM/QEMU) and run my "primary" OSes in VMs with hardware passthrough. If perf is horrible, I'll probably switch back to baremetal after a bit. But, I'm not likely going to be gaming on it so, I'm not likely to have much issue.

Once the hypervisor is working in a manner that I like, I should have an easy time backing up, rolling back, swapping out my "desktop" OS. I've been using Linux as my pretty much my only OS for over a decade (I use MacOS as a glorified SSH client for work). Most of my time has been on distros in the Debian or RHEL families (*buntu, Linux Mint, Crunchbang, CentOS, etc) and I pretty much live in the terminal these days.

With all of this said, I am coming to you folks for help. I would like you folks to share distros, desktop environments, window managers that you think I should give a try, or would like to inflict on me and what makes them noteworthy.

I can't guarantee that I'll get through suggestions, as my ADHD has been playing up lately, but I'll give it an attempt. Seriously. If you want me to try Hannah Montana Linux, I'll do it and report back on the experience.

EDIT: Thank you all for your fantastic suggestions. I'm going to start compiling them into a list this weekend.

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[–] maness300@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Manjaro KDE.

[–] Arksarius@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I cant really understand how people are still recommending Manjaro, just get Arch pure or EndeavourOS. Its more up to date and has fewer package conflicts and inconsistencies because they arent arbitrarily held back. Also doesnt ddos aur. It even has a guided graphical installer. Additionally if you need some GUI to manage your packages then just install pamac to get the same one as in manjaro or use pacseek.

[–] maness300@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's nice.

The fact that you think Arch is a better replacement for Manjaro tells me that your opinion is not worth considering.

[–] Arksarius@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Manjaro is Arch in a trenchcoat and on crutches lagging two weeks behind with its packages. Holding them back doesnt provide any additional stability and on the contrary has repeatedly caused conflicts. They simply dont have the capacity to check all the packages so its pretty much useless to prevent timely updates. The only difference between then is that manjaro has a few more preinstalled Apps and pamac. And EndeavourOS covers that, its a kind of Arch for beginners, easy install, and lots of Software preinstallable.

[–] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My #1 distro recommendation would be Fedora Atomic (immutable Fedora variants).

It's still a bit "underground" and hasn't reached huge popularity yet, but I see its potential that it will very soon.

I have ADHD too and Fedora Atomic is a lifesaver. Why?

  • You can "distrohop" anytime you want by rebasing. With that, you basically swap out the OS with something else (examples will follow), but keep your data and some settings. If you are on Fedora Workstation (Gnome) and want to have KDE, installing and removing those packages is a huge huge mess. On the OSTree variant, it's just one command, 5 minutes of waiting, and bam, you have a clean install. I do that all the time.
  • Less bugs and better security by reproducibility. Every install is the same.
  • Very quick rollbacks if something did go wrong. You can't brick your OS, which I did a lot before.
  • Huge choice. See at universal-blue.org , it provides vanilla images with some quality of life changes, as well as custom ones, including "unsupported" DEs and spins, e.g. a gaming distro. They aren't forks per se, they are basically build scripts and maintain themselves, which is why they're always up to date and way better than Nobara for example.
  • Distrobox pre-installed: you can just create an Arch container and use the AUR from it. So you don't need to run (and troubleshoot) Arch on bare metal, but can comfortably benefit from all great things Arch provides
[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Coreboot. As low level as you probably get. Embedded secure element OS maybe

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I do intend to dig deeper into OSHW and eventually build a modern, fully open-source laptop eventually but, we'll see if I can get there within the decade. Coreboot/Libreboot would definitely make the mainboard implementation a lot easier. Hopefully, Framework gets around to Coreboot support.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Cool. There are definetly companies working on that, so its just a matter of getting stuff to work, like Battery life etc.

  • Chromebooks (hardware is shit and often unrepairable and un-upgradeable)
  • Novacustom / System76 / Nitrokey using 3mdeb Dasharo
  • starlabs

Framework tried it afaik, but it gave problems. But then they should fix them...