Finally Americans discovering Lizard based distros
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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In case you missed the news, CIQ, SUSE and Oracle basically formed a pitchfork mob against RedHat yesterday
This looks like exactly what Red Hat wanted. Other distributions to use CentOS Stream and contribute to the open source community instead of just copying their work. Hardly a "pitchfork mob."
I agree. Still fun nonetheless, seeing some of the biggest players banding together against a competitor.
It's still an issue though for mainly science areas with large HPC clusters who need stable supported OS releases for extremely expensive specialty software. Looking at the pricing, Redhat now wants to take quite a large chunk in licensing fees out of science budgets.
I guess its still less than any Microsofr license a company would need to pay.
Nah, prices have gone up considerably. Generally around 250~350€ per year per Server depending on your deal for Redhat. SUSE is about the same, both are currently recalculating, most likely upping the price. HPC-nodes cost less (somewhere around 30-80€/year). But they make it all way too complicated by binding license costs to CPU count for example and now after abandoning that to other nonsense. Lead to a brief popularity of dual-core servers a few years ago, since Oracle licenses were all CPU-core count based. Don't know how that is currently going.
Also it depends on other stuff like support levels and whatnot. We once had to get an expert on licensing costs to get an offer for licensing a few servers and even these people could not respond immediately and had to go through several documents to calculate the price - note those weren't resellers, those were from the Company themselves. I had to stiffle a few laughes during that conference...
yepp - our compute cluster runs rocky8, and will have to transition (again..) to something else, probably suse.
Been there, it's not fun. Transitioned the new HPC cluster from redhat to suse. Switched to Centos after a few years on suse due to pricing and their software becoming more and more unstable. The following cluster got CentOS from the start and then got migrated to rocky after they switched Centos to rolling release. It's not easy running this stuff...
I'm OOTL, what?
SUSE and Oracle formed a pitchfork mob against Redhat yesterday.