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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Glorifying a known terrorist

Heartbreaking: The Basest Person You Know Just Made A Great Point

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The only terrorists are the American and Israeli regimes

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Russia's pretty up there, too. And I'm sure there's plenty going on throughout Africa that I am only vaguely aware of.

What about the Chinese govt RE: Uyghurs and whatnot.

Admittedly, I'm conflating genocide and war crimes with terrorism...

[–] davel@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Russia’s pretty up there, too.

Not really. It is a capitalist oligarchy, much like the US and Israel, but it’s not (presently) an imperialist one, despite Western claims to the contrary.

What about the Chinese govt RE: Uyghurs and whatnot.

Not really.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Remember when trump's guy had Netanyahu accept the ceasefire during the sabbath?

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Idk man I'm pretty sure both Ben and Don are on board with killing Palestinians

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

As was Joe.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 6 points 4 days ago

This is a non sequitur. Of course they are both on board with killing Palestinians. The meme states that the US controls Israel not the other way around. Americans pretend like they have no power and are under control of the evil Jewish lobby. This is a bullshit construct, the US is the evil empire. Israel is essentially part of the US.

[–] mehdi_benadel@lemmy.balamb.fr 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

What about both are conspiracies, and people act as they see fit? Doesn't mean they'll do good or not abide to their partners rules

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is so vague that it could be interpreted to mean almost anything.

[–] mehdi_benadel@lemmy.balamb.fr -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The morality of the meme was "You think Israel controls US when it is US who controls Israel". I say it's a very bold claim either way. They have aligned ideals but they can't be considered only as the tool of the other. Clearly if US were to stop funding Israel's plans they would not be able to fight as much, but US also benefit from Israel with weaponry, war engineering and intel.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It is not a bold claim. Israel was from the outset an European colonial project which gained support from the US and Britain to gain a satellite in West Asia, as its unsinkable aircraft carrier/missile platform. The huge amounts of "aid" that has been given to them from its inception should be ample proof (whomever pays for the band picks the music) but US politicians aren't shy about it either, as with Biden

Were there not an Israel the United States would have to invent an Israel

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle 5 points 5 days ago

It's a healthy mindset to be doubtful when it comes to memes but given recent events the thought of the US using military aid as leverage to have their way with an ally is not all that controversial. Consider that Israel would cease to exist if the US decided to stop funding the IDF.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think Nasarallah is right, the full quote is that the Israel lobby conspiracy was created by the Arabs so they could feel ok taking American money and depositing money there. The Israel lobby is comprised of Americans. Netanyahu, though born in Israel, was raised in the US.

https://www.memri.org/tv/hizbullah-sec-gen-hassan-nasrallah-america-conrols-israel-no-jewish-zionist-lobby