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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SeaStar@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml
 

People need to realize you can use alternatives

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[–] ganbaro@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

New feddit.de user reporting in

Ze Germans seem to have their own monopolistic instance

[–] Katzastrophe@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Created mine on feddit.de to get the german equivalent of Catastrophe as a username. And also because I live in Germany

[–] 15Redstones@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

German "Catastrophe" is "Katastrophe". "Katzastrophe" is "Katze"+"Katastrophe", which in english would be "cat" + "catastrophe"... oh.

[–] felicity@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Ich sehe was du dort tatest.

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[–] Yadaran@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't look at me I'm on feddit.de

[–] jannis@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that's a German speaking instance, so it's not suitable for everyone

[–] Daqu@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lern Deutsch du Lemmysohn :-*

[–] Derme@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Kommentarbereich: annektiert!

[–] jannis@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Ich kann deutsch, du Schlampenabkömmling

[–] Menachem@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

tbf people just wanna sign up and click on funny links, not browse through 100 rando instances to find the one that lines up with their exact interests and wait for approval and worry about uptime and whether their instance will still exist in a year

[–] Sinnoh@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Let me see if I underatand this correctly:

If I create an account on a random, small instance. And then go to the "all communities" feed. I can automatically see all communities that are in my instance. In addition to that, I can see all communities of other Lemmy instances, that are "federated". But I cannot see other communities from other nstances, unless I go on there, find the communitis and manually subscribe to them (I believe there are other ways to get them to show up, like using the search etc.?)

So, as a normal user. Who's just looking for a replacement for /r/all, wouldn't joining the largest lemmy instance that is fedarated to many others (Just by how many users it has, because it's the users who link instances by their actions?) make perfect sense?

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[–] aqua@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

feddit.de but we’ve had some heavy load an hour ago.

[–] Methylphenidat@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Coincidentally just when r/ich_iel went private.

Gotta see a lot of „Sprich Deutsch du Hurensohn“ here in the near future.

[–] _cnt0@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kapitel42@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Only part of Ich_iel i really dislike.

Does someone know if the dutch equivalent is migrating here as well?

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[–] BRINGit34@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I find it is nice to just join a server you enjoy at its core and then simply use the "all" sort of thing. I can see from other servers what is popular and can comment and upvote and downvote. It's all very seamless even if I am not in that home server

[–] adamantris@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Preach. And I love that you can easily sub to communities (sublemmys?) from other instances like they were on your own. The machinery is running quite smooth

[–] adamantris@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, hello from feddit.de! Since I'm a german user I thought it'd be only logical to register on a german instance. While new registrations are semi-locked, the criteria for being let in are quite easy to pass and they are mostly in place to filter out spam. Got my account approved right on the next day

[–] SaZheYa@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hello fellow feddit.de user! For me the approval went really quick too. Also, schließt euch an!

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah just register at whichever instance that sounds the coolest to append to your name. Just FYI I'm from programming.dev.

[–] devien@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

First was on programming.dev, but it's a quite new instance and it's search cache doesn't show a lot of community's, so I switched and made an account on my local one.

[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem is that a) new users don’t know that they can join communities across servers, and b) it is intuitive use start with the servers that a lot of people like.

Instance browsing and onboarding is probably the biggest challenge to Lemmy’s growth. The current experience either scares new people away, or encourages them to congregate on a limited set of instances.

[–] nattekrant@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the registration process just picked a random instance for you, maybe something nearby, and assured new users that they can visit communities and interact with users across instances, very few would pick the biggest instance.

[–] _cnt0@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

That isn't guaranteed, though. The other day I wanted to create a new community and was browsing instances on join-lemmy.org/instances for an instance that was compatible rulewise. The one I picked evidently wasn't a good pick (burggit.moe). Trying to advertise my new community, I found out it was defederated from beehaw (and likely others) and got insulted as a pedophilia sympathizer ...

Randomly assigning new users to instances would make a substantial fraction of people very unhappy.

[–] postgeographix@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kapitel42@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

It will be interesting how many instances we will have in the future and if there will be some instances that mainly exist to get certain words into your username for the other instances. Much like some domains already work for example .tv.

I could se myslve going for a @bigboss.world kinda name.

[–] harbo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I started off on lemmy.ml before the deluge and then today it’s basically inaccessible so I started up a new account over at lemmy.world. I browse by All anyway so I haven’t really noticed a difference.

[–] Kapitel42@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

In german "All" is used as a translation for "space" Its really fitting for a place where all the different instances merge into one universe.

[–] floppyslapper@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people naturally tend toward the servers of the people that started the project and also the servers that have the most people on them. As the federated technology continues to smooth out I think more people might be more comfortable spreading out to other servers.

Personally I started out on the Beehaw server but they had some rules I didn't like so then I found another server.

[–] Kapitel42@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

This might become a hurdle in the future. If for any reason some of the big instances die off it might lead to a cascading effect killing the whole Project.

Hoepfully people will just spread out and even the load.

[–] derek@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First I created account there and then landed on my current instance, because lemmy.ml's admin views looks sketchy for me. Been living in ex-ussr for all my life I just cant accept all that communists and marxists and the fact that lemmy.ml has /c/Communism on it.

I know that's silly but that's why I'm not there anymore.

[–] przemub@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no ;_;

Any recommended communities? (or ones to avoid)

[–] Rhabuko@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Everything from beehaw.org is nice. Even stuff on lemmy.ml is okay as long you don't bring up politics. Stay away from news or politics subs on this instance. And I hope we will get bigger communities on other servers than lemmy.ml or beehaw.org.

[–] zouhair@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The documentation explaining how fediverse works is so bad. It's so long and convoluted anyone new just can't be bothered reading it.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Docu-what now?

Seriously, if the average user needs to understand distributed systems to play in the fediverse pool, they are going to land back at Reddit. Just get people in the door (any door) and fight the technical debt that creates later.

Sure, it's a shit plan. But, it's the only way to really capitalise on the current moment. With both Twitter and Reddit blasting away at their own feet, there is a real opportunity for something better to step up. The fediverse can be that thing. But, not if people end up gatekeeping it. Less Stallman style, "RTFM!" And more, "hey, welcome. Let's get you set up."

[–] zouhair@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's my point. We need a cheat sheet easy to read that gives most of the necessary information to create an account and use different instances and how to post from one to another.

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/en/index.html is good but way too much for newcomers

[–] amki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I agree, the first page is already too much text, where is the easy to consume infographic explaining it in comic style? :/

[–] WalterzarBoBalterzar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I tried to make an account on lemmy.ml and it looks like their servers are (understandably) overloaded

I ended up choosing lemmy.world instead

My understanding is I'm not missing out on anything by chosing a less-popular instance. Did I get that right?

[–] ndr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NekoRogue@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oof, I can see why some of those instances are blocked, though. Since I'm on Beehaw, I checked their block list and...wow. Scrolled through each one for a few minutes and now I'm hoping I'm not on some kind FBI list for it. A few highlights from my research expedition:

  • A meme featuring various characters (MLP, Vaporeon, Peter Griffin, etc) unironically mourning Ted Kaczynski
  • NSFL gore
  • People calling for the execution of cops who stopped rioters on Jan 6
  • SO. MUCH. LOLICON.
  • "Hahaha look at this WOKE LIB 🤣🤣🤣"
  • QANON. QANON EVERYWHERE.

I was only on each one for a minute or so. I don't think I'm missing out on anything except maybe being put on some kind of list.

[–] amki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Even if you wouldn't like it, the cool thing here is you can decide for yourself. If... you feel the need to do so.

[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] buedi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

That looks like a missed opportunity to me not using fedd.it :-)

[–] misnina@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I tried to start a kbin instance today and I literally ended up corrupting or deleting debian off the VPS.

So look I'm tryin' but uh...give me a little time.

[–] buedi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I hope someone wraps his head around to get kbin running in a container, so noobs like me can just pull the image and host their own instances. I do like kbin, having most of what I am interested in the fediverse in one place is great!

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