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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by DougHolland@lemmy.world to c/aiop@lemmy.world
 

Edit: Added source link I should've included in the first place, thanks everyone. Also swapped the image (wrong gulag).

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 70 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s not a war crime, there’s no war. It’s a crime against humanity. Let’s please use the language correctly.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Straight from the image: "This is a war crime, without a war."

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's exactly what the picture says. Why are you complaining?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Uhm no? It says war (crime) twice.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a war crime, without a war

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, you found it.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Misinformation.

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can we have any source for this?

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 85 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

If it helps, the description of the photo is explicitly misinformation. The photo is from a 2020 (businessinsider.com) lockdown (reuters.com) in the Izalco maximum security prison, halfway across the country from CECOT. The images depict Izalco inmates being stripped and searched for contraband in the yard, it is not a group cell. I do not know the toilet/shower/etc. situation of these men.

I'm not OK with the events the photo depicts either, but regardless it's not what is described in the ... meme, are we calling this a meme?

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Perhaps we should just call it misinformation. Thanks a lot for the context.

So 51 people upvoted this without any reflection. We need to get better than this.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some people just read a post title, upvote/downvote and move on without even looking at the image. (Some people includes me too sometimes)

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 3 points 2 weeks ago

This is something I feel like Mbin does well. It shows separate up and downvote counts, so instead of a post like this just having a single score where 51 could either mean 51 upvotes and 0 downvotes or 101 upvotes and 50 downvotes, you can immediately see "Oh, a third of the people who voted on this thought it was bad, something must be up."

You can see this info in the Lemmy/PieFed interfaces (on desktop at least) by hovering the mouse over the point score, but the Mbin approach gives a lot more information to people who are just skimming.

Screenshot of the Mbin voting interface, showing 92 upvotes and 56 downvotes.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking lies everywhere. God, I love the internet. Thanks for checking.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, even knowing El Salvador had the one horrid hellhole, I wouldn't have thought they'd need more than one. Swapped the image, thanks...

[–] noretus@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is why I've begun to sworn off learning anything about current events on social media. Everyone's posting propaganda, misleading pictures etc. If I want the news, I check news sites, not social media.

Op is a mod...

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Op is a mod…

Being a moderator doesn't take any particular talent, training, or intelligence. Any ass can do it — and here I am.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Source added, thanks. Also switched the incorrect image.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But yeah, looks like the photo is from some other hellhole. Will fix.

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

By now most of the comments pertain to the original pic you posted. I would recommend to remove the post and make a new one to avoid additional confusion.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, I fucked up what I fucked up. One post per post.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are enough atrocities going on in this world without you posting misinformation to further a agenda you fucking twerp

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gangs: extort, dismember, kill, rape for 20 years.

High sec. prison: exists for 2 years.

Woke asses: pikachu

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don’t know if you were trying to make a joke, but misinformation is killing society, whether it’s four or against whatever agenda you have,do better, be better, consume better information

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's a fact El Salvador was ruled by gangs since the mass deportation from US decades ago. Gang leaders are videotaped agreeing 'not to kill that much' with gvt, church and international organization officials. It was america's most dangerous country. I'm all against police brutality but for now civilians are unprecedently safe in such a poor country. What other choice did they have againts an army of tens of thousands gang members threatening anybody's relatives?

A terrorism concentration camp is nothing compared to the methods used for example in Colombia to neutralize Pablo Escobar.

Idk what agenda do you see I'm pushing, I just wish the rights to a safe life and sovereignity for all south america.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I'm not. Not by a long shot.

But what can we do, when POTUS is now a King, by SCOTUS?

[–] Yenren@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

You got to go out and protest is there a risk you might end up in one of these places yes. But the risk of not protesting right now are far greater.

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You want to know what I am OK with? Armed resistance. Enough passive peaceful protest BS that never changes anything. It is time for rioting and violence.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans are genuinely way too pathetic for a modern armed resistance. The only ones who have a chance are now in power.

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's only a matter of time. We're already seeing acts of resistance, and as the government cracks down on it, they only make it worse. Treat people like terrorists and they'll become terrorists.