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[–] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If you don't have chronoc headaches / migraines, you don't necessarily have to follow this advice.

Taking a pill for the slightest pain will be detrimental in the long run for your liver and the painkiller's efficiency.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Define "slightest pain".

If you're in occassional discomfort and it's impacting your wellbeing having an aspirin once in a while is probably not a huge deal.

If you have recurring pain constantly or frequently then you need medical attention and you should follow that guidance, not what anybody says on the Internet.

[–] flughoernchen 16 points 4 months ago

Thank you. People with chronic headaches or migraines are the ones that should not follow this advice, as painkiller-induced headaches are a thing and only make matters worse. Just see a doc.

As for occasional headaches: It's going to be a lot easier fixing the issue that lead to a headache once you don't suffer.

[–] Napain@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

on the contrary if it's occasional it's fine, if it's chronic you have to switch to lighter stuff like weed

[–] subignition@fedia.io 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't enjoy suffering a headache or think it's virtuous, but I was always taught that pain is your body sending a message. Usually, unless it's a proper migraine, I can figure out what the cause is and address it. Muscle tension, dehydration, low electrolytes, etc.

If it remains a puzzle, I'm not opposed to OTC analgesics. I just like to try to troubleshoot first (:

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not about glory.

It's about becoming dependant on a crutch that may not always be there, or could have been the first step when the pain becomes TRULY unbearable instead of having to escalate to btc pharmaceuticals from there.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 8 points 4 months ago

Once the pain sets in the meds won’t work as well/at all, depending on the type of pain and your particular body. Preemptive medication is more than just a crutch!

[–] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeaaahh buuut... as a person who used to have migraines developing tolerance is a thing a very much a problem. Luckly some tolerances the body seems to "unlearn them".

[–] Bertuccio@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm happy with my current liver, thanks.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

i mean to what degree does it even affect your liver from taking one pill when you occasionally get a headache?

like it cant be worse than one beer, right

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ibuprofen crew checking in.

Those of us with minor, chronic pain would like to keep what's left of our stomach linings.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Naproxen, ibuprofen, arthrotec, pregabalin, etc. Used to be daily, multiple times. And tecta to protect my stomach from bleeding out my nose. Still in fuckloads of pain - always.

But by stopping the frequency i have found it helps with the tolerance. I've also lost maybe 75 lbs over 5-ish years which also helps.

My doc knows I have issues with other drugs and I'm hesitant to take anything more potent for pain.

I want the pain to end but I don't want the remedy to destroy the rest of me.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

huh? how does one pill of ibuprofen do that? or is it taking it like every day or a drug interaction

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Taking it every day wears away your stomach and intestinal lining and you could get ulcers. Also generally it's not just one, it's 3-4. Sometimes multiple times a day.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

yeah i mean if you have significant issues with migraines you prob shouldnt be taking it every day but rather finding a more permanent solution, also is that only ibuprofen? what about acetaminophen or nsaids

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

My aunt actually had this happen went brain dead from the loss of blood when a huge ulcer popped. She was in the hospital for a lung biopsy when it happened it was pretty terrible and it was later concluded ibuprofen was the most likely cause.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Man, this took me so long to get through my skull. I used to be a "I don't need the medicine, why self-medicate when I can just endure it and it will go away".

I got older, started having those little aches turn into ruin-your-day annoyances that only reset with a sleep overnight and now I mildly resent young me for being silly about it.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair Aspirin was a factor in nearly killing me, acetaminophen (Tylenol) now doesn't work since i took that too often, and now im stuck with ibuprofen which may, again, cause a leak in my stomach that could kill me.

Sooooooo... if you're not taking this medication regularly, by all means, if not just a word of caution from an old, apparently hard to kill, bastard.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, this seems like one of those things where people casually discussing the issue are talking about wildly different scales. I, to be clear, am talking about having a hangover or sleeping in a rough position and pinching my neck once in maybe two or three months and refusing to take an analgesic to get through it faster. I get the feeling that what you're describing is either on a way different level or a rarer interaction or side effect.

Which is why my other comment below still goes: if you need to deal with pain beyond sporadic usage to get through a one-off event, please go talk to a doctor and don't listen to me or anybody else on the Internet.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 4 months ago

I also share the sentiment: you don't get any medals or gold stars suffering in pain.

I was just offering a word of caution for those unaware, as I was in my youth.

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not trying to be tough. Just never really thought those pills did much.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

They do help. Tylenol for back pain, ibuprofen or aspirin for swelling or other pain.

The problem is it takes about 30 to 45 minutes to really kick in. So the question always becomes "did it go away or are the drugs working?"

Generally, yeah they're doing something.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In holes, on the other hand..

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gowron obviously is not finding glory in that hole.

Jesus that meme cracks me up every time.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gowron obviously is not finding glory in that hole

He might! We only see the first part of his adventure in gloryholing!

that meme cracks me up every time.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

More like Browron

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago

But then I can't complain!

[–] udo@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I needed to hear this today, thank you!

Sent after finally taking some Ibuprofen

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I'd probably take them more often if they did anything for me. Last time I was injured they did fuck all.

[–] Atrichum@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Who's out there not taking medicine for a headache or cramps? I'll take two Advil liquigels at even the hint of a headache.

[–] Soolonkivi@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Taking painkillers is kind of like closing the doors of the control room as the captain of a sub and driving onwards when there's a fire onboard.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I would, but I must suffer. Because there is currently a cat sitting on me.

[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 4 months ago

I used to have frequent headaches as a child.
Initially, I just took the medicine, but everytime, it returned with 2xamplitude after a day or so (probably when the effect wore off).
Stopped taking the medicine after a few years.

It was much later that I realised, headaches always have a root cause and the pain was just telling me - there's something much worse going on.

Pain is your friend. Tells you when there is a problem and sometimes, even helps you know where.
Had I taken painkillers for my broken toe, I probably would have broken it again... and again.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Something gloryhole something rough something headache medicine.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Relax the muscles around your skull, headache gone.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah just simply stop having a headache

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

There exist people that need to do just that. That said, they won't learn it from somebody telling them.

(And yeah, fuck the people that assume it applies to everybody.)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

It works for me.