a lot of those on the right very much do, yes
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Which is exactly why it's important that they not be allowed to hold any kind of power.
and, so, it is critical that we vote
Yeah but Biden and the Democrats haven't done enough. We should not vote so that all others suffer my spite. /s
I wish the Dem party compromised as much with Dem voters as they did with trump supporters.
That's the best way to get Biden the votes necessary to prevent Trump.
Not the current strategy of:
Fuck you, you'll vote for me or get the fascist again
Like, this should be an easy victory for any halfway decent candidate. Instead we get an 82 year old that won't stop shit talking his party's voter base for not wanting to fund a genocide rather than social services.
Ok I've had this conversation and realized that people can't do the math. So lets do it:
Let's evaluate the last say 24 years and when the Dems had all 3 of the House of Representatives, Senate, and Presidency. Obama had it for 2 out of 8 years. Biden had it for 2 out of 4 years. Let's add it: That means Dems had control for 4 out of 24 years. Read that again, they had control for only 4 the last 24 years.
And that can still be filibustered. So if you want the filibuster proof majority, then Obama had it for 4 months. Not years, MONTHS. Biden never had it. Add it up: Dems had filibuster proof control for 4 months of the last 24 years.
Look at those stats again: Dems had control for 4 years of the last 24 years. For filibuster proof control, Dems had control for 4 MONTHS of the last 24 years.
This is why Dems compromise, because they basically never have control. To get literally anything done they need to compromise. Take your pick, either 4 years of the last 24 fucking years, or the 4 months or the last 24 years. And you wonder why they have to compromise? And why they go to the centre?
If you want progress you have to give Dems overwhelming and consistent victories.
[Want to add Bill Clinton? That goes to 6 years of the last 32 years, and still 4 months for filibuster proof for the last 32 fucking years. Want to add Bush senior? Then it's 6 years of the last 36 fucking years. Want to add Reagan? Then it's 6 years of the last 44 years. That's right, 6 years out of the last 44 fucking years that Dems had control. And for filibuster proof majority they had 4 months of the last 44 fucking years.]
Dems had control for 4 years of the last 24 years. For filibuster proof control, Dems had control for 4 MONTHS of the last 24 years.
And for half that time we had it, we didn't get much done and instead wasted that time "looking into" stuff...
And two years later, you're surprised turnout is going to be low?
Do you not remember what we were promised if we got the Georgia runoffs?
How does this not make sense to you?
Biden and Dem leadership squandered a chance we get every few decades
I love this "they had control for 4 of the last 24 years, and we don't have the Jetson's life!! Why don't they do anything!?"
Dude, 4 fucking years in the last 24 (or 4 months if you want filibuster proof) and you're complaining about lack of Jetson's life. Do you hear yourself? It's unbelievable. I'm glad that I cracked the code to what you expect because now everyone can see it.
Actual progress takes time and effort to work out policies and get votes from your own party (you know, the party whip). The world can't change direction on a dime like you insist. So they need consistent and overwhelming victories.
Dude, 4 fucking years in the last 24
Why go back so far?
We're talking about Biden's first term, and he had it for two years, during which nothing was actually done because he didn't "look into" anything until taking office apparently.
He just won the election and took a vacation.
In case you couldn't tell from midterms, voters didn't appreciate that...
"so far"? Dude that's not that far.
We've talked (pretty sure it was you) and I finally realized that I had to hammer home to you that Dems need consistent and overwhelming victories. So I'm looking at recent history of say 24 years.
I added to my previous comment, you have to figure out what your own party supports and will vote for. This is why you have a party whip. Dems presidents are not dictators that their own party will just blindly support. Not to mention that the bill usually starts in Congress, not the president. Congress needs to write it.
So you're back to expecting The Jetsons life out of two measly years. Dude. It's not how it works. Actual progressive legislation requires actual time, effort, and work. 2 years is next to nothing. The world can't turn around on a dime.
Took a vacation LOL. He's been doing absolute fuckton. But it's not enough for you, thus you wanting Jetsons. I cracked the code.
“so far”? Dude that’s not that far.
You're having a different conversation than everyone else, I think that's what's frustrating you.
We are talking about the last four years, two of which Biden had majorities, u til the inaction during those two years led to republicans taking the House.
I have zero idea why you're insisting we talk about the last 24 years.
I'm also not sure why you keep talking about the Jetsons.
Like, I'd try to explain this better, but it's impossible when you refuse to talk about anything rather than what you want.
It's like if two people were talking at a party and you walked up and screamed:
Blake Bortles is the best professional foosball player in Australia!
Sure, those people could try and explain all the ways your wrong and why it has nothing to do with what they were talking about.
Or they could just smile and nod politely and walk away.
The problem is you seem to think that is "winning" some "argument"...