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Stats from here: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

Like, has an instance gone down and if so, why hasn't there been a comparable drop in users and comments?

Edit: Thanks to @example@reddthat.com here for pointing to zerobytes.monster becoming more aggressive against bots as the likely culprit.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Aha! Checking back a week or so later, glad this was actually solved!

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 140 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Believe it or not, they’re all Nicole posts removed by Lemmy.World /s

[–] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sorry if this has already been discussed but is anyone else worried that “Nicole’s” pictures are from the webcam on a compromised computer? They’re always from the same angle and she’s not really posing for most of them

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I think that is the general consensus — that she is likely an unwitting victim

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 9 points 2 weeks ago

I believe someone found an account she did livestreams on somewhere, and the pictures are most likely screen grabs from those. The odds of the person in the pictures being behind the spam are pretty much nil.

[–] Zentron@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wuuut ? Everything mentioning nicole or just posts from "her" accounts ?

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Only photos and written info that could identify her. The spam accounts probably get banned as they reported. I don’t know of any posts made by any account claiming to be her?

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[–] Toribor@corndog.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone on the fediverse is Nicole and you can't prove otherwise.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It may have been lemmy.zip

It did in fact go down for about 48 hours... prompting me to make this new account on dbzer0.

Basically, the admin attempted to update to a newer lemmy version... and it failed, multiple times, and they just rolled back, restored the old version, posted an explanation and apology, and they'll be further looking into ... exactly what went wrong.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they unzipped the archive? /S

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

I don't know exactly how that post counter ... actually, technically counts posts, but:

1:

Zip going down could have uncounted all posts anywhere made by zip accounts.

2:

There could have been some kind of... propogating post count negation effect, as various other instances reacted differently to zip users posts on their instances could not pull them anymore, on different time scales.

3:

If a zip user had a ... top level comment, on another instance, its possible all lower level comments responding to that comment may also have poofed out of existence, in some respect.

...

I may be misusing some terminology here, and this is just spitballing, but yeah.

Almost all of my .zip account's posts/comments... are not on zip itself, and its possible that that is fairly common amongst .zip users.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i apparently cannot figure out ascii shrugs, nvm

¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ => ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Just so we're clear, what this crawler does is go through all servers that use ActivityPub known to it, and congregate that data to a list of known services (Lemmy, Mastodon, Piefed etc.). How is does that is by querying a standardised end point to get the instance info (.well-known/nodeinfo which will then point to a different path to get the actual info).

For instance, here's what it will collect for feddit.uk:

nodeinfo json

// curl -s https://feddit.uk/nodeinfo/2.1 | jq
{
  "version": "2.1",
  "software": {
    "name": "lemmy",
    "version": "0.19.10-feddit",
    "repository": "https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy",
    "homepage": "https://join-lemmy.org/"
  },
  "protocols": [
    "activitypub"
  ],
  "usage": {
    "users": {
      "total": 4184,
      "activeHalfyear": 718,
      "activeMonth": 485
    },
    "localPosts": 25750,
    "localComments": 122835
  },
  "openRegistrations": true,
  "services": {
    "inbound": [],
    "outbound": []
  },
  "metadata": {}
}

The important stat here is the localPosts, which is all the posts made by local users in any community, local or remote. It does not include posts by users from remote instances made in local communities. You can also see this data on the instance sidebar in lemmy-ui.

lemmy.zip going down will only reduce aggregated stats for total posts by 47,280, as that's what they report for their localPosts.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Huh.

Well, I appreciate the info and shrugging magic, but uh... hrm.

I dunno then.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Is divide by zero becoming the most based instance? How did a single bro make best lemmy?!?

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's a pretty cool instance. The governance is transparent with a nuanced voting system, the rules and policies are indeed based, and db0 takes decentralization so seriously that he's apparently working on safeguarding the instance against his own influence with the governance system and admin recall votes and such.

Thanks db0 et al!

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's the most based thing I've heard all year--where can I learn more about this decentralization endeavor?

That's it--I'm making an account now. This comment sealed the deal

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

More details in the announcement post: "Adding two new admins and introducing radical recalls"

The voting system allows for the community to decide on instance policies, federation decisions, even a process for instantly recalling admins like himself. He acknowledges that as server owner there is only so much that can be done to limit his power, but he appears to walk the walk. Cool stuff.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Db0 is super into decentralization! Everybody should make their account there!

...wait.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'd say dbzer0 is probably the most leftist, at least from what I've seen. I personally don't go as far as being an anarchist but can appreciate the philosophy. I probably have more in common with anarchy than democratic/plurality governance, if I'm being honest with myself.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait... dbzer0 is "divide by zero"?

I've been reading it as "dibzer nought"

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I were to pronounce it outloud, I would say:

D. B. Zero.

Like D. B. Cooper, lol.

the... zer(o), 0 swap is... basically old school l33tsp34k... like uh... l00tb0x, pr0n, type of ... dialect? syntax?

[–] Lemmchen 2 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it stood for database zero.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lately I've been seeing a lot of comments coming from that instance that are indistinguishable from the ones I see from .ml.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

Bc he's just that chill, obviously! 😁

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://lemmy.zip/post/35999238

Here's the post.

Evidently, Demigodrick has since fixed the problems and successfully upgraded to 0.19.11

https://lemmy.zip/post/36177918

EDIT: Alternate explanation: The fediverse tracker has fallen victim to Trump Tariffs as well rofl.

[–] Hubi 41 points 2 weeks ago

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...

[–] example@reddthat.com 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I think this is zerobytes.monster, one of the reddit mirror instances.

the post count fits and it also matches with the user count not significantly dropping.

that instance has been using rather strict waf blocking rules from time to time that likely also affect the crawler for fediverse.observer.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

I missed your reply weeks ago, and I know upvotes are worthless, but you deserve most of mine from this thread =P

Its been a long time since I have actually seen crowd sourcing actually work in a non exploitative way to solve a problem, be productive.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I thought it must be a Reddit repost instance, thanks for pointing to the right one.

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[–] libra00@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Nicole posts were banned and deleted en mass?

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] m_f@discuss.online 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

LOL my sides Is this real or a bit/sketch?

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

It’s a sketch about a real incident.

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

That’s gold!

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s probably just some technical issue. I’m sure the post didn’t actually go anywhere.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

They just got up and left.

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com decided that he doesn't need his alt accounts anymore.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Please don't compare me to a Reddit mirror instance 🥲

[–] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah, so that's what zerobytes.monster is?

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[–] Oskar@piefed.social 18 points 2 weeks ago

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force...as if millions of posts were routed to dev/null and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

All of universal monk’s alts got deleted

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

I remember a bot purge, but I'm not sure if that was around the same time.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Interesting drop

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