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Both things can be true, but it's funny that two opposite sounding replies came to this one comment about US politics.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Regarding comment 2, there is nothing legal that can be done about the situation. What am I supposed to do? Enjoy a vacation to Gitmo?

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just wish people would stop focusing on something from the past that cannot be undone. And if you voted for Trump and regret your choice and actually have achieved empathy in the process I have no reason to make you my enemy. This is not the time to be going after each other when everyone is going to get fucked. You can silently enjoy someone's misfortune, but it's a misfortune that we will all see and experience in due time and it's not productive for the future we are all going to endure. And right now, whether you are a democrat or a republican, the rest of the world is angry at you. Nobody is going to come and save the US and we need to get our shit together and stop focusing on what can't be undone.

If you look at polling there is a significant number of republicans that are just as angry as democrats. And we need to help them so they can help us. The only thing blaming and "owning" each other is going to accomplish is that nothing will change. It's like being on a sinking ship while everyone laughs that the other guy is going to drown while making no effort to get off the boat.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Republicans made an entire industry out of hating democrats way back in the 90s. They’re not going to work with us. Ever. And every time Democrats try to work with them it has ended up badly.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

democrats working with republicans led us to weimar joe and the appeasement era

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

time for my catchphrase. biden was the best president of my lifetime.

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Wha.. how do yo..

Lord help us. It will be many years before I read something that stupid again...

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think this is certainly true of the Republican Party. But ignoring republican voters is political suicide. There are too many of them. They must be reckoned with, one way or another.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republican voters cheered on the entire time.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They cheered for the party that said they were going to improve things, while the Democrats looked at the abysmal state of America and said "Yeah, things are going well, expect more of the same".

Stealing Republican voters is a viable strategy, but the Democrats need to address the economic issues that drive those votes, not just buddy up with Republican war hawks like Harris did

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What industry? And what happened in the 90s?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Rush Limbaugh and his ilk have been spouting bile and making bank from it for 30 years.

I’m glad he’s dead.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The 90s was when Republicans first began the scorched earth tactics against Clinton. It was when all the conspiracy theory shit started. They planted the first seeds of populism then.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Deregulation of radio, end of the fairness doctrine (thank u Reagan) and the subsequent rise of "local talk radio" sponsored by evil billionaires and spouting the vilest shit imaginable.

which led directly to fox news and the tea party faction of Republicans and well, now here we are

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Most Americans either voted for the orange moron or didn't care enough to vote against him. And there was plenty of evidence about what he was going to do; there was his first term, and there were all his speeches about what he was going to do, and is now doing.

So there is no excuse. Most Americans approved this, either implicitly or explicitly, because they did not vote for the alternative. Honestly I'm surprised Harris couldn't win simply with the message "I'm not Trump."

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Most Americans either voted for the orange moron or didn't care enough to vote against him.

It's understandable to be frustrated, but this statement ignores America's long history of voter disenfranchisement.

[–] t_berium@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

This is the correct answer. Not to act is to act by deciding not to act.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

America is the epicenter of social media brainrot. 'I'm not Trump' would never be good enough there. It needs to come with a TikTok dance or something else flashy and provocative.

[–] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That last part is the least surprising thing imaginable. Reveals a deep misunderstanding of how and why people actually vote

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

On 2024-11-05, of the eligible voting population in the US, roughly:

  • ⅓ voted for Trump.
  • ⅓ voted for someone other than Trump.
  • ⅓ didn’t vote.

As far as I’m concerned, if you’re eligible to vote and choose not to, you’re implicitly throwing your support behind whoever wins.

⅔ of the eligible US voting population to some degree support, and are responsible for, everything that is happening in their federal government now.

The rest of the world interpreted it as the US saying it doesn’t wish to be taken seriously for at least the next 2 years. We can resume discussion when they decide to choose adults to represent them again.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

If you didnt vote, you voted for this.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

America is too large to make generalizations about it. Politics, culture, and beliefs are all very highly localized and even worse, it's land that votes, not people. People who come from countries the size of a single US state will never fully understand.

[–] Altrex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is something I think gets lost in discussions a lot. The USA is massive and fragmented, the fragmentation being intentional with state individuality.

I remember a German family that thought they could easily do LA, Vegas, and the Grand Canyon in a couple of days.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US has more similarities to the EU diversity-wise than almost any other individual nation.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We all speak the same language, I don't think that comparison holds up.

[–] subtleorbit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I love that you made one, single, tiny point to the contrary and decided that was enough

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because there was only one point made? The US is pretty damn homogeneous compared to the EU.

[–] subtleorbit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're the first person to bring up language? As if that's the only thing that can differ between places lmao.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Having different languages is kinda a big deal. It means different stories growing up, different cultural practices, different emphasis across different interpretations of history. Americans may have a lot of geography between each other, but the cultural difference isn't all that wide.

[–] subtleorbit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you ever been to Kentucky and California? Vastly more different than France and England

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you say so.

How does it compare to the difference between Finland and Greece?

[–] subtleorbit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I'd actually say that Finland is closer to Greece than Orange County is to like Trimble, but I haven't spent much time in Finland outside of Helsinki and Enontekio. But the point isn't who has the most different, it's "is EU to US a more apt comparison than any individual European country is to the US?"

Netherlands and Poland would have been a better example for you to bring up than Greece and Finland honestly.