For real? Pull your head out of your vegan high-horse! Just sit in the sea of ideas for a while and listen to your own mind to see if some new thought comes along.

For the situation of ecological destruction to grow crops, it needs more consideration if you're vacillating between denial and universal human genocide.

Alternatively, accept that the vegans and the carnists are sitting in the same clump on the "humane spectrum". One doesn't get to opt-out of moral culpability by being vegan.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

Wtf I dont think you actually refer to my comment here

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago

I am still not sure what your point is?

We have to eat something and a vegan diet is one where we minimize land use by directly consuming the "raw" materials instead of a middle-men that introduce a significant amount of energy loss.

It is definitely necessary to improve the way modern agriculture works. Large monocultures do not provide a healthy ecosystem and we should work on creating a diverse and vibrant ecosystem. I really liked the movie The Biggest Little Farm that showed an alternative (despite them endorsing omnivore diets).