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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

…with ready access to guns.

So much commentary here focusing on societal ills, but even in other countries with lots of poverty and shit social services they don’t have individuals committing random mass murders like us because they don’t have a collection of high capacity personal arms. There’s plenty of people in other countries that have commonality with his life, yet they don’t commit mass murder. Yeah, shootings do happen elsewhere…but not like in the US, and the difference is access to firearms.

[–] LazyBane@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

In the UK knife crime is a big issue for those in poverty or those in struggling cities. Having access to weapons of course increases risks of people dying ot those weapons, but removing guns isn't going to just convince everyone trying to lash out to just lie down and suffer in silence.

I don't live in a contry with civilan access to guns, and I don't live in a situation where I feel the need to protect myself with weapons, so I'm not gonna stake a claim in the gun control debate. But if you ban every weapon ever conceivable, without addressing why people are becoming violent to begin with, people will just result to using their own hands (or perhaps more realistically, going above the legal means. Like with Shinzo Abe's assassination).

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, you treat the symptom, but in an effective way. It's called mass shooting, because so many people die, when guns are involved. You do not have this, if there is someone trying the same with a knife. Banning guns is a band aid during the time necessary to fix the underlying problem.

[–] jeremy_sylvis@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's also impossible given the state of partisan gridlock and the constitutional amendment necessary.

Fortunately, actually solving problems here is far simpler than asinine bans.

[–] Sodis@feddit.de 0 points 10 months ago

There will still be kids slipping through. They also say it themselves:

Too often in politics it becomes an either-or proposition. Gun control or mental health. Our research says that none of these solutions is perfect on its own. We have to do multiple things at one time and put them together as a comprehensive package. People have to be comfortable with complexity and that’s not always easy.