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I've tried using my incredible (british) brain using Google to see if these open source titans ever engaged in a battle of "friendly conversation" with one another.

I was always interested what Stallman thought of the angry but smart finnish man who gave us the robust penguin kernel that breathes life into older machines and powers supercomputers for the weather.

The same with Torvalds thoughts on Stallmans GNU involvement and him as a person.

This is because you sometimes had different organisations in the FOSS and OSS community that take on different meanings so I wanted a better idea if these chaps ever spoke in an interview together.

TLDR : Does finnish man like bearded GNU jesus man and the same vice versa

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

“There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children.”

But per the quote in the meme above, you can't have willing participation, it is always coerced.

And you still don't provide sources.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I'd say the quotes above show he absolutely believes children are capable of consent. Why else would he use phrases like

  • "it's fine so long as nobody is coerced" (as if there are any situations where an adult can have sex with a child without there being coercion)

  • "willing participation in pedophilia" (children can't consent to sex!)

  • "the arguments [against having sex with children] seem to be based on cases that aren't voluntary" (None of them are voluntary! CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT!)

It doesn't mean he supports it.

He explicitly said it should be legal, and also alluded that parents are just prudish if they don't want their children to be having sex. It's very clear he supports it.

You'll be able to find this stuff in the articles that went around when he was pressured to resign from the FSF and from his role at MIT. It's primarily quotes from him on his own site, stallman.org.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

Pre-blowback: fucking children is fine if they consent to it

Post-blowback: friends explained to me that it hurts the children and that they can't consent