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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imean, the USSR wasn't even good socialism. They still used money for quite a large set of things, businesses were very much NOT worker owned in many places, people could be killed by the whims of authorities and a dictator... Yep, not even good socialism got to space first.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, not having money is a communism thing, not socialism.

But most businesses in the USSR were co-ops or state-owned.

I’m not in the “the dictatorship of the proletariat is identical to collective ownership” camp, but I mean, that is in the end a difference of ideology regarding what socialism really is.

And…. What dictator? I mean, all that “there’s no freedom in the USSR, if Stalin thinks you’re ugly you go to the gulag” is 100% propaganda, right? I mean the CIA admitted in their secret reports that not even Stalin was really a dictator, but that disclosing that wouldn’t be politically favourable to the US.

And like… I don’t think the USSR killed anymore people than the US or Europe lmao

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“there’s no freedom in the USSR, if Stalin thinks you’re ugly you go to the gulag” is 100% propaganda, right?

Sure buddy. That was just a psyop that the MAN wants us to believe so we don't revolt and bring back communism.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, I’m brainwashed! Lmao

Sure buddy. Go back to believing everything your school textbooks and journalists on TV have been saying since the Cold War.

[–] Nobsi@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You're almost there buddy.