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For me, I really want to get into niri, but the lack of XWayland support scares me (I know there’s solutions, but I don’t understand them yet).

Also, I stopped using Emacs (even though I love its design and philosophy with my whole heart) because it’s very slow, even as a daemon.

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[–] bsergay@discuss.online 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Zsh

FWIW, the excellent ZSH Quickstart kit has been splendid for my transition.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Actually, tutorials like that are a big reason that I don't want to switch. The first steps are things like:

  • Install these fonts that only work in a GUI environment
  • Install these programs straight from GitHub without your package manager

...and all I hear is: "this stuff isn't ready yet" and "I'm going to be staring at Unicode glyphs the next time I have to tinker outside of my GUI".

If I can't easily and securely install a shell on every environment I use as I don't want to be constantly context switching, then I'm going to have to stick to Bash.

[–] crater2150 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

...and all I hear is: "this stuff isn't ready yet" and "I'm going to be starring at Unicode glyphs the next time I have to tinker outside of my GUI".

This really isn't a zsh problem, but a "people putting too much stuff in a 'getting started' config".

I used zsh for 15 years before looking at any plug-in manager, you can get a lot of the good stuff like the completion by just going through the first-run wizard included in zsh. A lot of stuff is included directly with zsh, including various prompt themes (which is what that tutorial wants extra fonts for, because they use a fancy prompt with custom glyphs; I don't think any of the built-in ones need that)

Things like fuzzy history search with fzf is usually included with fzf's distro package and the additional zsh-completions package for less used or newer commands is also packaged by most distros. In my experience, a lot of the other plugins are stuff that could be a standalone script instead of a plug-in anyway.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Well that's much more encouraging. I may just give it a try if the first run wizard is simple enough. Thanks!