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[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A truth most people don't want to hear is that densely populated cities are overall better for nature and resources. You need less roads and tracks, fewer concrete overall, compact cities are much easier to make walkable, etc.

Really the only argument against tight packed cities is "I don't like people". That shouldn't really be a priority.

For nature to recover we need to give back space. The worst you can do is build rural homes or spread out suburbs.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really the only argument against tight packed cities is “I don’t like people”. That shouldn’t really be a priority.

There's also: "I want to have nature around me" - and there's "I have pets that need to go out" - and there's "In a big city it can be dirty, smelly and loud" and "People neglected by society hang around big cities" and "Big real estate firms crank up housing prizes".

What we really need is better city planning, to reduce traffic & roads, and make areas pedestrian only - at that point, quality of life in a city improves. Also, we need to kill big real estate corps and regulate housing prizes. And there needs to be a will in politics to actually address social issues, including but not limited to violent crimes.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are right, this is of course argumented from an ideal perspective. Building and managing cities like they are now, just denser, wouldn't work.

In an utopian world that really put the environment first there would be no greedy investors and greedy landlords, no one would feel left behind and instead of using farms we'd have some kind of ultra efficient vertical hydroponics stuff going on.

It would be amazing having sci-fi mega cities, perhaps connected via underground railroads and between them just nature undisturbed. It feels like we are so close from a technological standpoint to make that happen. At least it's not completely unimaginable.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be amazing having sci-fi mega cities, perhaps connected via underground railroads and between them just nature undisturbed. It feels like we are so close from a technological standpoint to make that happen.

I wholeheartedly agree. And I believe we have everything needed to make that happen - but if everyone has good living conditions, that just isn't profitable / exploitable for the corporate world. Happy people means it's harder / impossible to scare them or make them angry at some perceived threat / enemy, and exploit their dividedness. All megacorporations without exception and a lot of mid- to large size businesses thrive on exploiting workers who are too divided to unite and demand a fair share of work and profits and acceptable working conditions.