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[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Being from a very rural area: guns are tools. They provide self defense against wildlife and crazy humans when you're miles outside of law enforcement coverage, they are pest control, and they are a humane way of euthanasia when a farm animal is suffering.

And like most other tools, such as drills, post hole augers, machine lathes, tractors, cars, etc... they can maim and kill indiscriminately when used incorrectly or maliciously. But you cannot simply ban or remove the tool from everywhere because it is still serves a very important purpose. Can they be more controlled, education made mandatory, more stringent confiscation rules in the case of people with mental illness? Yes, and probably should. But you will never eliminate the firearm completely.

I am prepared to recieve the hate and downvotes for providing a measured, reasonable response.

[–] squaresinger@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

The issue here is that it is perceived as a right and not a privilege.

Because of that, anything restricting that "right" at all is perceived as an infringement on the personality of the gun user.

With cars most people are on board with the concept that being caught while DUI leads to a ban on driving.

The same is not true for people handling guns while drunk or in an irresponsible way.

It's also totally understood by people that there are areas where you don't drive (e.g. inside a shopping mall). Again, the same is not true with guns.

And that's the issue here.

The "right" needs to be made into a privilege that is allowed under certain circumstances (e.g. if you need it for work or live in a very remote area). This does not contradict with banning guns in cities, schools, towns or other areas where guns serve no positive purpose.

Your use case is valid, but also many gun owners aren't in your situation.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The NZ gun laws are largely based on this idea, at least in terms of being a tool for use against animals, less so personal defense against other people.

The implication of this is that some types of gun have few/no practical use as a tool other than for personal defense/offense.

Rifles and shotguns are useful for hunting. Fully automatic & select fire weapons are not, or are at least excessive. They're only useful if you intend to attack people.

Same goes for handguns.

[–] UlfKirsten@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Another sane approach by NZ.