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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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Rick Beato making clear what is happening on the music scene just as Cory Doctorow or Adam Conover talk about the Internet. Please remember to use frontends like Grayjay, NewPipe, Freetube or invidio.us to watch videos like these.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Almost all my favorite music was made before I was born. The rest was made mostly before the year 2000. And music has mostly been generic forgettable schlock since then. Rick’s analysis is spot on.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And music has mostly been generic forgettable schlock since then.

Mainstream* music.

Plenty of amazing artists out there who are not part of the music business machine.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, there are gems to be found. That’s why I said mostly.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Except that mainstream music is not "mostly". Even in the 80s, 0.1% of the music produced globally was played 99% of the time on the radio.

But I understand what you're saying.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wait, you're saying your favorite music is from when you were young?! No way! That certainly has not always happened to the majority of people since time began!

/s

Snark aside, this is what happens to the majority of people as they get older.

Is there a lot of garbage out there these days? Absolutely. But this is in large part due to the fact that there simply is a lot more music coming out now than ever before because of how easy it's become for anyone to make and distribute their own songs. Yet is there also a lot of great music out there these days? Absolutely. And it's due to the exact same reason

[–] classic@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

I'm with you on the fact that incredible music is still being made. It's not that hard to find, either. Bandcamp collates music on blogs for all types of taste, for instance. And there's all kinds of ways to play off what we already know we like to gradually discover new artists - and expand our tastes.

It's weird to me that people settle on a certain collection of music and then just stop. It's even odder when they then complain that nothing else is as good.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I said my favorite music was made before I was born. It wasn't "the stuff that came out when I was growing up is my favorite" which is what people keep replying with.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No, we're talking about the music that YOU LISTENED TO when you're young. And young in this trope means music you listened to before you were in your like 30s to 40s.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You made up a lot of stuff in your head about me to get to your conclusion.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Like what? That you were younger 20 years ago? That's literally the only thing i 'assumed' about you

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Old people hating new music. I've never ever heard that before. Definitely Spotifys fault.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Almost all my favorite music was made before I was born."

I was a young person hating new music. RIF.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure, fair enough, but it's just another variation on everyone else is wrong. The video is actually bitching about metrics. Music is easier to find than ever and the artists were never paid except at the top. You are always going to have folks chasing mass market appeal.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's no such thing as 'everyone else is wrong' when it comes to taste in art. I was just providing my viewpoint that was in agreement with Rick's. I don't think he even discussed compensation to artists in this video, he's just talking about how much people value music today vs in years past.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying mechanical music. I love some of it, in fact I'm currently on a big psytrance kick. But I agree with him that most of it coming out in the last 20 years is garbage. And it's perfectly ok to disagree with that. I never said people suck if they like modern stuff. I just think it's mostly shit. :)

Edit: fact is, most of the music coming out at ANY time is garbage, and always has been - we only remember the good stuff from the past because everybody forgot about all the other trash