this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2023
14 points (88.9% liked)

Memes

45569 readers
1552 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] banana_meccanica@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not only the billionaires, even the millionaires, and all the people taking the plane more than once a year. It is an ecological crime the pollution of air transport.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

What’s magical about that once-a-year limit? I find that quite a lot already.

[–] tilcica@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fun fact. modern planes consume ~3-4l per 100 passengers per km or 3-4l per passenger per 100km.

efficient ICE cars consume ~6l per passenger per 100km.

add to that, that there's basically no good alternative to fast very long distance or cross-continent transport

[–] Luccus@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit #2: ICE is a type of train in germany. I mistook "ICE cars" as meaning trains and was wondering how flying is supposed to be more efficient than trains. Hence my confusion.

OG comment (invalid, see Edit #2): Where are these numbers coming from?

I cannot find any source for the 3-4l/passenger/km claim. I cannot find any source for the claim that planes are more efficient. Nothing comes even near this claim.

https://ourworldindata.org/travel-carbon-footprint

https://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/rail-and-waterborne-transport

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49349566

Can you please provide a source?

Edit #1: I just want to add that my old combustion car (VW Up! / Seat Mii / Skoda Citigo) burned around 4.2l/100km. So I according to you, if I had another person with me, I'd beat both planes and trains with what stands uncontested as the most inefficient form of transport?