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[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's the actual difference between a cancer cell and a normal cell, aside from the fact that cancer cells don't kill themselves

You answered your own question

Is cancer from a cow transmissible to humans?

Who knows? What's the whole point. Were playing god without knowing the consequences.

People knew the effects of tobacco for centuries, actually

Wrong. Doctors lied about it for years when it first came out and long after

Within like 2 years cigarettes went from being something prescribed by doctors to something that everyone knows gives you cancer.

Again, wrong. Early warning signs didn't show up until the late 50s by then it had been 20-30 years to late. And Dr. Luther Terry didn't come in for another 14 after that in '64. Even despite this evidence, the tobacco industry went to massive lengths to discredit the research and downplay the health risks by funding biased research, launched propaganda campaigns, and used public relations strategies to create doubt. It wasn't until '98 that the Master Settlement Agreement came into effect. A whole 68 years before they paid for their crimes.

When something is as heavily scrutinized as vapes or lab-grown meat, you can be damned sure the effects will be widely understood within a couple of decades

Decades? You mean the 7+ decades it took for tobacco? After which everyone had died already? Idk about you but I'm not waiting 10-20-30+ years to find out if I get a new disease named after me.

The fact is people who advocate for this shit don't understand science and just believe what their told to, just like what everyone believed when big tobacco ran those propaganda campaigns for 70 years, or what some still believe about global warming from big oil's propaganda campaigns.

Just because we don't know something today doesn't mean it doesn't exist, humans arent as smart as we give ourselfs credit. And just be we did it in the past, doesn't mean we've learned from those mistakes because clearly you all are still buying the shit they feed you and begging for more.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Wrong. Doctors lied about it for years when it first came out and long after

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Counterblaste_to_Tobacco

Some doctors may have been wrong, but that doesn't mean nobody knew cigarettes were dangerous. I'll save my time and assume that if you're this unabashedly wrong about this, you're probably as unabashedly wrong about everything else too

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow, Ignoring quite literally the entire commet and using a "nuh huh" argument. Classic bootleg reddit user tactic

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm ignoring it because you don't really have anything to say besides "we don't know what the health effects of lab grown meat will be" when it's quite literally exactly the same as normal meat. It's like complaints about GMOs. The process of producing it may be different, but the physical material that you consume is literally identical on a chemical level. It's nothing like cigarettes.

[–] Bezzelbob@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Do you really not get the difference between "the chemicals are the same chemicals" and "nuh uh?"