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[โ€“] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalism is not "when you have markets." I totally agree that it's important to have well regulated markets. But capitalism perverts democracy with bribery and lobbying. Democratic Socialism is when you have a democratic government and a democratic economy.

[โ€“] Shunned_Marble4378@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

although how do you want to achieve a democratic economy? voting? ๐Ÿคฃ corrupt politics and capitalism are symbiotic. how do you plan on getting rid of just one of them.

[โ€“] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Democratic socialism and capitalism can coexist. As long as the former significantly neuters the latter. Capitalism is (supposed to be) an economic organization, not a political one. It's just captured the government in the US and other places.

[โ€“] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's just captured the government in the US and other places.

That is a core function of capitalism, not some crazy coincidence. There are market economy models separate from capitalism.

[โ€“] CoLa666@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Could you point me to the economy models you are refering to?

I think the biggest mistake of the social market economy practised in Germany, was overlooking or disregarding the fact, that policy and policymakers are themselves part of market forces by lobbying, corruption and bribery. This leads to creeping reduction in social standards and development of the economy towards are radical free-market economy, which in turn inevitably leads to feudalism and fascism eventually, as demonstraded live in the US currently.