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Scholz urges caution on potential AfD ban despite 'extremist' label | dpa international (dpa-international.com)
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[–] seeigel 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Leading politicians have left the AfD because the party became too racist. This means that there was a development.

I read that Lucke calculated that he could use the extremists but keep them under control. A packt with the devil.

I think that Lucke's plan could have worked if not only racists would have joined. Then conservative citizens would still control the party. Lucke losing the election was when the racists took over. The media made it impossible for regular citizens to join without losing face.

But this is a minor issue. It doesn't matter if the AfD was racist from the start or turned racist. It's the media that gave attention in both cases. Lucke's new party and many other parties like Volt are ignored. Why did only the AfD receive the attention to become relevant?

[–] federalreverse 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Leading politicians have left the AfD because the party became too racist.

Those leading politicians were no longer leading when they left, they were forced out.

This means that there was a development.

There was. Right-wing extremism was more covert first, then conquered the Eastern part of the party before taking over the entire party.

The relative non-extremists (supposedly) leading the party, Lucke, Meuthen, Petry, and even Weidel now, are part of a strategy of Afd trying to make itself more palatable to moderate voters while the bulk of the party is free to find their crowd among radicalized Covid protesters and neonazis.

I read that Lucke calculated that he could use the extremists but keep them under control. A pact with the devil.

You don't need to be particularly bright to realize that this couldn't work. Especially if a large part of your financing also depends on pro-fascists.

Lucke's new party and many other parties like Volt are ignored. Why did only the AfD receive the attention to become relevant?

To a large degree because Afd are polarizing, populist, and came first (unlike Werteunion, BD, etc.), and thus were interesting. Volt is a mixture of FDP and Greens that does not do enough to gain notoriety.

[What I find is worrying is that a belief in a massive worldwide conspiracy that appears to underlie many of your comments. I don't believe in that and I don't think that's a sensible thing to believe in.]

[–] seeigel 1 points 3 hours ago

palatable to moderate voters while the bulk of the party is free to find their crowd among radicalized Covid protesters and neonazis.

So the covid protesters could have become the majority if they all had joined.

AfD was not first, remember the NPD. The NPD could have been equally popular or the AfD could have been equally ignored.

a massive worldwide conspiracy

Surprisingly I don’t know and I don’t care. The relevant part is that most problems have a solution which is ignored by those who should know better. Leaders don’t stand up but remain quiet.

There can be one, there can be many, there can be inertia or human shortcomings. The strange part is that people ignore issues as if they are indeed a conspiracy that they cannot change instead of pushing for change.

The AfD has received surprisingly much attention. Whatever the cause, that has to change or the successor party will become equally popular.

That said, there must be huge conspiracies. Cumex is one. There can be bigger ones, there are definitely many more smaller ones.