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It's always the same story... Essentially those people say that all you need to do is govern better than them. Which is a stupid take because for that to work, they'd have to be in power first - vs you don't want fascists to get power just to prove your point of them not doing it well. You're not going to get that power back.
~~One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other. There are laws in Germany that make it very clear where you're allowed to be on the political spectrum. If you're outside of that range, your party is supposed to be dissolved, end of story. Imho, they are way beyond what is allowed, so the constitutional court should decide if they should be allowed to keep working. It's just not a political question, it's a legal question. So it should be answered in courts, not in the parliament.~~
~~On another note, I even think that engaging with them politically won't lead anywhere except more publicity for them. And that's not because they're so good at debating but because they're always acting in bad faith. Their goal isn't to fix the system but to destroy it, so every time you give them airtime they'll use that to lure more frustrated people into their hands, just to start using the channels the party owns to get more information, opening themselves up misinformation and lies. It's not an accident that that party uses social media and their own channels to spread their point of view while ignoring or oppressing established media wherever they can. This whole premise turns engagement with them into an argument you can't win, though. If you're defending any part of this system, you're their enemy and they won't use a debate to engage with you but simply to use you as a means to communicate their own goal of tearing it all down. They are not interested in compromise, so unless you agree with their idea of destroying this system as we know it, there's no good outcome in any engagement with them.~~
God, I missed your "not"... I fucking wrote that on mobile. ๐