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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/29061644

We’ve done it, we got rid of another soulless right wing politician!

Peter Dutton first made his party lose this election and now also lost his own seat much like Pierre Pullover

We’ve still got a government that green-lit new coal power plants in it’s last term, screwed over the Aboriginal community with a poorly run referendum, and still doesn’t give a shit about climate change, but baby steps hey.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We have a basic rule that the headline must match the article. Current headline reads:

"Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson"

I'll give you a fair shot to correct it before just removing it.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Done. Only because I respect you.

It doesn’t make sense that rule. But you’ll disagree anyway and there’s never a chance of winning a mod argument anyway.

The article headline you want is pointless and meaningless to the 99% of the world who visits this.

Peter Dutton to leave Coalition leaderless, conceding he has lost his seat of Dickson

I added context and a little bit of juice to it so it would make for a better headline for non-Australians. Did I add some anti Trump sentiment? Sure. Did that misconstrue the content of the article? No.

I understand the current rule makes it easy to mod the place, but it also means you don’t let the OP add context for Lemmy. The rule should be: you can’t misconstrue the content of the article.

Anyway, I appreciate all you mods do and I respect the rules that are in place.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks @kingofras@lemmy.world ! I know the rules are a pain, but really it helps prevent shitposting. Imagine coming into a community and just seeing variations on "xxx is a dumbass/shithead/etc. etc." all the way down. :)

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

All good. Thanks for all you do around here!

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree.

Not modifying headings is a fairly universal rule.

Making it "easier to mod" is an understatement. If you let people "adapt titles to be more suitable for lemmy" or whatever you did, then you'll spend all day having arguments about what adoptions are appropriate. It's unworkable with volunteer mods.

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's so pathetic that the top comment chain is discussing this pedantic issue instead of the actual article. Thank god for this moderation or my experience may have been slightly degraded.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's a pretty fundamental aspect of content aggregators. If posters editorialise the articles they post it becomes an echochamber for a very confined range of opinions.

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Didn't say moderation isn't necessary, it is. What I said is it's sad the top comment chain is about moderation.

I opened this post to read comments out of curiosity, I still don't even know the context of this article because the top comment is about the title which I find sad.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If only there was some way to determine which content was shown on your device.

Like when there's too much content to show at once, maybe it could be organised in a tall "page" and you could jump around to read different comments.

Although it would be tall enough it's more like a scroll I guess. You could "zoom" up or down the scroll and read those comments you found interesting or engaging.

Actually, maybe you could get users to promote those comments they found most interesting and demote others.

It's a shame nothing like this exists.

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 1 points 1 minute ago

If only there was some way to determine which content was shown on your device.

Not really sure how to filter posts whose top comment is regarding moderation, pretty damn specific filter. Then again your comment is a large giant nothing burger that continues to ignore the point I'm attempting to emphasize so I don't think you really thought it through in the first place.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint. I posted an article from the Australian national broadcaster. They have their flaws but they aint breitbart.

While I sensationalised the title and added my 2 cents in the original OP I cross posted to this community, I linked to a nice source and created a more world context friendly title, yet far from disingenuous click bait.

The upvotes and the comments are largely based on that.

What this rule is currently accomplishing:

  • people will just post sensationalist sources with clickbaity titles and questionable journalism
  • or people will create sensationalist titles for neutral higher quality sources and then the top comment is always going to be about this level of virtue signalling.

What’s the point of a community if these are the rules? You’re asking for bad sources and at best or you’re just a comment section provider for legacy media.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why has everyone started saying "counterpoint" all of a sudden. Every comment is a counterpoint.

Counterpoint. Hopefully people aren't idiots that upvote sensational headlines.

Counterpoint. Everything I already said.

Counterpoint. You could make your own community where people sensationalise headlines.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: I haven't noticed that being a trend until this thread.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Qualification: I've only seen it a handful of times in the last few days.

Assertion: Still very irritating.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm curious what your headline orginally was

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can see it in the crosspost

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Ty! Makes a bit more sense as it does give context. The 'booting to the curb' was a bit editorialized. But if like me, you have no idea who Dutton and Dickson are it's a lot clearer.