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Kamala Harris has the support of enough Democratic delegates to win the party’s nomination for president, according to CNN’s delegate estimate.

While endorsements from delegates continue to come in, the vice president has now been backed by well more than the 1,976 pledged delegates she’ll need to win the nomination on the first ballot.

Harris crossed the threshold amid a wave of endorsements from state delegations Monday evening.

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

The democratic election happens when we vote for the president.

Quit abusing the word "democracy" like that. A country picking one of two choices handed to them by oligarchs is not democracy.

Activists labored for decades and died in police crackdowns to achieve the concession of primary elections from the two parties. You are pissing on their sacrifices. We don't give up hard won rights just because they aren't explicitly mandated by the constitution.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I also want more choices, such as provided by ranked choice voting. However to say that our elections aren't democratic is far worse of an insult to the sacrifices of the labors of prior generations. Voters may still choose anyone that they want, and that ability to choose is better in our system than it is in many other places in the world. It's not the best though, and I would like to see us get there. But it is not fair to say that our election (run by the government) is no longer democratic just because an independent 3rd party is now going to register a different person on the ballots than their initial polling suggested.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

to say that our elections aren't democratic is far worse of an insult to the sacrifices of the labors of prior generations.

Nonsense. They would almost certainly agree. It's better in a lot of ways, but it's not democracy to pick between two establishment choices. It's just not.

is no longer democratic just because an independent 3rd party is now going to register a different person on the ballots

It was never Democratic in the first place. I've been fighting this fight for over 25 years, and I'm a latecomer. However, it's not "just because" of that one thing. This is the moment we are in right now, so it's what I'm engaged with right now.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's sounds like the democracy we have is not the one that you want. That's fine, it's also not the one I want. Again, I'd prefer to be able to choose between a range of progressive candidates. But either way they are both still democracies and we should keep on asking for better systems. I disagree that what we have is a completely undemocratic system, that would imply that our system is similar to Russia's or NK's and it simply isn't.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Asking for a better system is exactly what I'm doing, and look how everyone closes ranks against the guy not towing the party line.

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