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How do i you decide whats safe to run

I recently ran Gossa on my home server using Docker, mounting it to a folder. Since I used rootless Docker, I was curious - if Gossa were to be a virus, would I have been infected? Have any of you had experience with Gossa?

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[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is not speculation, it is reducing attack surface. Security is preemptive. Docker/Podman are not strong isolation solutions. Rare does not mean we shouldn't protect against the chance of kernel vulnerabilities. The linux kernel around 30 million lines of code long and written in a memory unsafe language. Code isn't safe just because we dont know the vulnerabilities, this is basic cybersec reasoning.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Write me an exploit then

If it so insecure prove it

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That is not how security works. You must protect against known and unknown attack vectors. I am only pointing out weaknesses of Docker and other linux containers that share the kernel with the host or/and run with Root. I'm not saying anything original or crazy, just read up on the security of these technologies and their limits. I am not a malware designer, I am a security researcher.

Look into gVisor and Kata Containers for info on how to improve the security of containers.

Here are some readings for you:

https://redlib.tux.pizza/r/docker/comments/eakd50/help_can_i_safely_run_malware_inside_a_container/
https://www.csoonline.com/article/1303004/vulnerabilities-in-docker-other-container-engines-enable-host-os-access.html
https://www.panoptica.app/research/7-ways-to-escape-a-container
https://blog.trailofbits.com/2019/07/19/understanding-docker-container-escapes/
https://www.securityweek.com/leaky-vessels-container-escape-vulnerabilities-impact-docker-others/
https://www.cybereason.com/blog/container-escape-all-you-need-is-cap-capabilities