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A 14-year-old boy has been arrested after allegedly killing his parents and severely injuring his 11-year-old sister at their home in a rural community in Fresno County, California, on Wednesday, authorities say.

The suspect, who is not being identified because of his age, originally called the sheriff’s office after the double slaying and told them someone had broken into their house in Miramonte, attacked his family, and fled in a truck, Fresno County Sheriff John Zanoni said during a news conference Friday.

Detectives later noticed inconsistencies in the boy’s story, according to Zanoni.

“Evidence ultimately showed that he had fabricated the story of a break in and was responsible for using multiple weapons to attack his mom, his dad and his sister,” Zanoni said.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (9 children)

If you own a handgun, the government can come and check on you at almost any time. You must keep it locked in a safe. You must keep ammunition in a separate room. If you plan to take the handgun to the range, or anywhere outside of your home, you have to contact the government for approval and establish a timeline.

All these laws were in place in 2019.

2022 changed some rules on buying or transferring ownership of restricted weapons.

[–] Zaderade@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

I stand corrected by several years, but again, I don't think recent amendments 2019+ has reduced crime. Our government has taken lawful gun owners, and are trying to take their weapons away. No criminal who owned a handgun is going to go and turn in their weapon that they may use in a crime.

Edit: take a look at this link https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2022001/article/00009-eng.htm

It is firearm crime statistics from 2009 to 2021. I would like to see up to 2023 but it isn't there unfortunately. I see no correlation to 2019 law amendments and decreasing crime. Except for maybe robberies. Which I would have expected to increase with COVID and unemployment. That being said perhaps there hasn't been enough time passed to reflect the law changes via statistics.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (7 children)

We’re talking about something entirely different then we started off taking about.

I’ll let you have this conversation by yourself.

[–] Zaderade@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We started off talking about whether recent Canada gun law amendments actually cut down on firearm crime. You then presented statistics about the US.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What’s the article this thread is based on?

You said US gun control won’t work because you feel Canada’s doesn’t. I showed you otherwise and you started to move goalposts.

[–] Zaderade@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I literally did not say that. I offered a conversation point to compare with what Canada has been doing and asked how it has cut down on crime

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the laws you quoted were Canadian laws pre-2015, the article I linked was from 2019 which was to correct when you were saying previously.

Maybe familiarize yourself with the laws and when they changed, then see if you see differences because it’s hard to see what changed if you don’t know what you’re looking at.

Anyways, real world numbers from the first article I linked showed that Canada’s laws work better then the US ones.

[–] Zaderade@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Between 2019 and 2023 the Canadian government issued a ban on "assault style weapons" including pistols shorter than 105mm in length.

Another commenter pointed out that law was to prevent them being stolen during break and enters which makes sense, but even then I've never heard of that happening. I'm sure it does in larger cities So back to the original question of did the change of law to give your newly prohibited weapons back to the government decrease crime rates?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Respectfully your understanding of the laws and timeline are confused.

Bill C-21 got royal assent December 15, 2023.

That’s about two weeks ago which might be why you haven’t noticed a difference.

The other article I linked from 2022 was just to do with sale and transfer of ownership.

All the laws that you stated in your original comment were all in place before 2015.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

But what you're not understanding is HE REALLY LIKES HIS GUNS AND YOU ARE BEING MEAN TO THOSE GUNS. Won't someone please think of the 9mm handguns being mercilessly attacked here?? They have feelings and rights too.

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