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[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 104 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Hogan is famously a liar of epic proportions and shut down a potential wrestlers union in the 80s. I know many of us were hulkamaniacs at some point but he’s a piece of shit.

I haven’t kept up with ole Stone Cold but last I checked he was threatening people online for being racist and homophobic. So if you want a decent person that was once at the top of the business he’s a better choice

Edit: I should add that I know Austin beat his wife when he was king of WWE but seems to have changed his ways and bettered himself. Doesn’t excuse that he did it but like I said he’s about the best in the wrestling business

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I know next to zero about professional wrestling, but isn’t CM Punk also a pretty good dude outside the ring?

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

John Cena too I think. At the very least he had the record for most wishes granted for the Make a Wish Foundation.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

John Cena speaks pretty fluent Chinese when he needs to apologize to the CCP.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Didn't like that but can't say I'd do different.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is no way the studio didn't push for that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's a massive star. He could have said, "no, fuck the CCP, I won't do it." It's not like he would have never gotten work in Hollywood again. He's worth way too much even if he doesn't kowtow to the CCP.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

TBF celebrities bigger than him have been cancelled for lesser offenses than taking on the CCP.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I probably worded that poorly. I'm really mean in terms of scale. Spacey is for whatever reason coming to mind. Not to excuse his absolutely abhorrent behavior, but really old allegations of arguable "consensual" sex (with a minor) is just not comparable to sticking your finger in the eye of the CCP. Will Smith might be a better example.

I'm sounding a lot like an apologist when really I'm just trying to say it's difficult for me to judge Cena for saying "I didn't mean to offend anyone and love the Chinese people" when it isn't my career on the line.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As you can see here, plenty of performers with less star power than Cena are banned from entering China for even mild criticism. He bootlicked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_banned_from_entering_China

He has less integrity than Katy Perry.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ok? It's worth applauding them for choosing that stance. I'm still not going to judge Cena too harshly for opting out of a conflict that he can't really impact anyway, when by all other accounts he seems to be a pretty admirable person.

It's not like he said "Taiwan must immediately surrender to the Chinese government". He just chose not to get stuck in the middle of it. You may see that as cowardly but it's easy to hold that position behind a shroud of anonymity.

Edit: It's all lip-service anyhow. I'm not going to bother going down the list but I would imagine most of it's members don't exactly have a huge following in China, where Cena does. I'm sure Ted Cruz is super upset about not being able to enter the country.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Dude, he apologized in Mandarin. That's pretty bootlicky.

[–] apj2k36@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago

General politics wise he's publicly been pro women's rights and supports LGBQT+ rights

[–] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's on the right side politically, definitely. Big believer in human rights, and has spoken up publicly in favor of abortion and trans rights.

I hear that he's a nightmare in his personal life due to being a big huge ball of trust issues, but he definitely ain't no fascist.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Punk has some issues for sure but he’s not a bad person

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

He didn't lie when he said he was a racist though. Of course, he didn't know there was a camera on him at the time.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

John Cena defends serial rapist Vince McMahon

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well that sucks. Vince McMahon is a piece of shit.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Vince is arguably one of the biggest pieces of shit alive