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Efuels make sense for some things
Mechanical equipment that cannot be quickly transitioned to electricity in the short term (thankfully there's not actually much stuff like that)
Flights (where the size and weight of batteries are an issue, hydrogen planes are a ways off and have their own issues)
Some motorsports where batteries would die quick and the added weight massively compromises racing.
People in the future keeping classic cars on the road (remember that this is only a tiny amount of miles/km traveled in total, and wouldn't use up a great deal of fuel)
But for general road cars? No. Efuels are a terrible idea, and doomed to fail.
All it would do is take up huge amounts of land that could be used more productively, cost waaay more than electricity, provide worse performance than electricity, be less reliable and need more performance than an electric powertrain, and still come out being worse for the planet than electric cars.
Fuel companies need to accept that carbon fuels will become increasingly niche. They're in denial.
No it's not doomed to fail. This would imply the actual plan is to operate cars on efuels. But it isn't. In reality it's just straight out desinformation meant to get people buying combustion engines now, and scrap the EV plans later when -totally surprisingly- the majority rejected EVs because they are brain-washed into believing that they are optional.