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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by ekZepp@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
 
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[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They had how long to codify row vs wade into law and they didn't.

Democrats have had 6 months since 1993 with a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, plus control of the house and White House. Outside of that narrow window during Obama’s first term, they would never have been able to codify Roe v Wade. They used that time to pass the ACA.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Exactly my point. They have all that time and can't get it done because of the Republicans. Republicans got it done tho, didn't they? So which party holds actual power? So why should I vote D when they can only muster 6 months of actual power in the last 3 decades? Why would I think voting for them would matter at all? Even when elected they're eunichs. Thanks for proving my point.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Republicans got it done tho, didn't they?

Shrinking the government, reducing services, shutting down programs and deregulating are all much easier than passing laws to guarantee new rights or build new programs. Democrats’ priorities are generally to build new things, Republicans’ are to obstruct or destroy.

So why should I vote D when they can only muster 6 months of actual power in the last 3 decades?

The Inflation Reduction Act is the single largest clean energy policy ever enacted. Just because Democrats are blocked from achieving all of their goals doesn’t mean they are accomplishing nothing.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hey look guys! In 30 years the Ds did a thing! That totally balances out the 100s of things the Rs have done in the same time!

You said it yourself "they're blocked from achieving their goals". The best supercar in the world is outrun by a toddler if it has no gas. I'd rather vote for a toddler than the guy claiming "we'll have gas soon. Just as soon as we convince the gas station to sell it to us and the bank to honor our card and...."

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I pointed out one recent, big accomplishment. If you’re genuinely unaware of anything else they’ve done, you’re welcome to read some of the lengthy lists others have posted in these comments.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You're literally the one who said that since 1993 they have only had 6 months of actual unopposed power. You're literally the person saying "In the last 3 decades, the Democrats have only had the ability to do anything for a grand total of 6 months."

How the fuck isn't that an ineffectual party? Would you go to a doctor that can only help you for 6 months out of 30 YEARS? But somehow this is okay when talking about the Democrats? You're not immediately thinking "well what have these jackasses been doing this whole time?".

Cus you absolutely should. And if you're only answer is "well the Rs are better at it than them", you either have to change tactics or find another team. You've already admitted you're the losers.

Going back to the car metaphor: you're over here complaining that you could do so many things with your supercar, if only the Rs would let you have some gas. Meanwhile, there are electric supercars being built that don't need gas. A completely different avenue to take. Instead of fighting for gas, you just build the best electric supercar instead and outrun them.

The Dems are over here begging for gas when there are plenty of other parties building that electric supercar.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You fundamentally misunderstand what's necessary for Republicans to accomplish their goals vs Democrats to accomplish their goals. Overturning Roe and codifying Roe are two completely different branches of the government. You really need to brush up on civics.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

Who got what they wanted? Rs. Who lost what they wanted? Ds.

It's the same story over and over but you want to convince us that "this time it's different!".

Well, when you guys actually start getting shit done, I'll support you. But if it's "at least you're not voting for X", nah, go jump off a cliff. It's the party of doers vs the party of "we try really hard but somehow keep failing and our only idea is to blame the other guys".