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I'm going on my first overseas trip with my girlfriend since we started dating. I worked hard all last year to earn and save money for this trip. It will be our first international trip ever, and I want to make it perfect, memorable, and the best trip of our lives.

I've read countless articles online to ensure everything is perfect. It felt overwhelming to the point that my head started to hurt. Fortunately, I found an article that provided a detailed guideline, and it seemed like the perfect guide. My girlfriend and I have been following it, and it has been very helpful so far.

However, I decided to come to this community to seek additional guidance, advice, and tips from you all, just in case the article missed something important. My girlfriend and I would greatly appreciate any travel tips, advice, and guidance you have, as this is our first trip abroad together.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I am guessing from context you're an American going to Europe.

The US is big; distances in Europe is more manageable. However, we've packed a bunch of stuff into every square kilometre. Just because you can do Paris, Venice, Florence, Rome, and Naples all in a week doesn't mean you should. I lived a while in Florence, and I always overheard American tourists talking about how they "saw" all these great European cities in just a day before moving on. They didn't see shit other than the Eiffel tower and the Ponte Vecchio.

Find a place you want to experience, and try to actually experience it. Go to museums. Eat their food. Visit small unknown places. Walk around. Learn about the place.

Europeans don't generally love Americans. We mostly tolerate them. We kind of like their culture, but our favourite Western movies are Italian.

This is not an attack, but a fair warning. Don't parade how American you are expecting people to treat you better - the best you can hope for is that they'll expect you to leave a fat tip. Try to mimic social codes around you. Don't be the loudest person around - and if the loudest people around you are Americans, they're either being obnoxious or you're in a tourist trap.

Don't ever brag.

Investigate when you can eat and what you can eat when. Lunch and dinner times vary from country to country and sometimes city to city. If you're hungry between 14 and 18 in France or Italy you'll be lucky if you can settle with a sandwich. Restaurant closing times vary a lot too - a Pizzeria in Italy will open at 19, in Denmark it will close at 20.

When in Rome and all that. Macdonald's might do in a pinch, but Europe is a continent of cheese, wine, beer, and regional specialties. Find out what people eat in the city where you are. You probably don't want to order a paella in Andalucia; only Americans order bolognese in Naples.

Especially in France, don't expect everyone to speak English. They might not be very comfortable with it, and starting a conversation in English an awful start. Learn a few phrases. In France, always start any interaction with a bonjour or bonsoir. At the very least learn how to ask people if they speak English in their own language. In many countries their response will be "of course I do", but chances are they'll still appreciate the effort.

And good luck!! It's a wonderful continent, especially if you're interested in art, food, or history.

Edit: Also, if you're in a touristic city looking very American or talking loudly in American English, you need to keep a tighter watch on your personal belongings than anyone else around you. You're being targeted by pickpockets.

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is all excellent advice, especially regarding France. Where I live, which is only 20 minutes from Geneva, you'd be lucky to find anyone outside larger towns who can speak English confidentially. And forget about it if you have an accent other than very standard British or American.

Europeans in general appreciate the small things in life much more than Americans. Like everyone has already said, try and relax and take it all in, rather than rush from place to place trying to cram as much as possible into your trip. Have that second glass of wine, or that dessert that looks amazing, or even that afternoon nap after a long lunch. Trust me, you remember those moments just as fondly as the big ones.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ew do you live in Cluses? 🤢

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I won't dox you but I'm jealous of your LeClerc 😂

[–] saayoutloud@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

We're from Singapore and are going to Japan. I have found lots of helpful nuggets in your tip, so thank you very much.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

After decades in hospitality I have concluded that yanks aren't any louder than the Brits or Italians

But what most American men do is put on an affected deep voice to try to seem more manly or whatever, because that's what they grew up seeing on TV or they're a bit insecure.

It means that over the general hubbub in a cafe of whatever, you can always hear the American guys, despite them not actually raising their voices

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago

I think American women might have something similar going on. Some of them use their voice differently from what we're used to in Europe. But yeah, solid observation.

I think Brits and Americans are also badly perceived because people understand the stupid stuff they're saying. People speaking more obscure languages might have the benefit of doubt.

[–] FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run 2 points 4 months ago

You should hear how the Japanese talk on the phone haha