And don't you think it's a bit contradictory to not have the gusto to throw your fist in the air after being shot but being stone cold calm before getting shot? If it was planned Trump would've known he's going to get shot at and like the coward he is he wouldn't have just stared at the shooter.

Also we don't know the cartridge of the weapon but if the weapon used 556 or 223, then it's very unlikely it was staged because those would shred Trump if they actually hit him. If it was 9mm or 22 it would be more believable, but even then would you really risk killing the candidate just to prop up votes? He didn't seem to be wearing a BP vest so even smaller rounds would have been life threatening.

I very much doubt it was staged or false flag or anything of the sorts. It just doesn't make sense to me. Trump should get an Oscar if it was planned that way.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Adrenaline, and narcissism

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My dude thinks 223 is big boy bullets

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The idea of shooting any round at someone and expecting to "just wound them" is absurd, but .223/5.56 is definitely in the range of "reliably fatal if applied to the chest or head" .

It might not be a "big boy round" but it's still a rifle round -- if wasn't powerful enough to reliably "incapacitate" (i.e. kill) a human being at 100 yards the world's militaries wouldn't still be using after 40+ years.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Real men can shrug off any calibre not designed to punch through car engine blocks.

Shit, I hear that if you use enough power tools and watch enough sportsball even those liquid copper jet tank boomy things have a hard time getting through the protective crust of sawdust and testosterone.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol power tools... Literally devices made to make hard work easy, so funny that they became this manly symbol.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Oh idk, fucksaws are pretty manly. Love a man that knows his way around a fucksaw.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 months ago

.22LR can readily kill someone, with good shot placement. Basically anything interfering with the heart, brain, or causing substantial leaks of the circulatory system is gonna kill someone.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're the dude pretending 9mm would be a reasonable false flag ammo lol

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

... you might want to re-read my comment because I'm definitely not saying that. The idea of "Shooting to wound" with any live round is moronic. Even .22lr can easily kill or cripple someone regardless of the shooter's intent.

I take issue with downplaying how powerful .223/5.56 is. Sure, there are absolutely more powerful rifle rounds. That being said, here's a video of cheap surplus 5.56 FMJ punching through 1/4" steel plate at 200 yards.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

My point was that if you had to have someone shooting at you would you rather they shot 22lr or 223? Shooting any live round at a target you don't actually want to injure or kill is stupid, but if you had to you'd want to use the smallest possible bullet to minimize the damage.