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[–] cows_are_underrated 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (17 children)

Ingonna be honest. Trump is a danger to democracy and to the world as a whole. Eliminating him would be a contribution to democracy. However, if you decide to go for him, make sure hes really dead. If he just gets hurt that's a Hufe win for him, because he then can use this attack to deploy a massive anti democratic campaign giving him more Attention.

However, violence should be the lädt option. There are other ways to defeat fascism. Make it possible that the average person can have a good life and don't copy fascists points. In the case of Trump the USA also missed its chance to ban him from the elections.

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 35 points 1 month ago (13 children)

The problem with taking down Fascism with violence is that you're just killing the figureheads, not the fascist ideas. Say that the assassination attempt was successful - he'd become a martyr who would strengthen those beliefs in people (they want to take us down because we're right type of deal), and his legacy would be easily continued by thousands of influential conservative politicians/foundation members.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stop making him out to be a martyr before anything happens to him. By repeating the rhetoric that "he'll be a martyr" you are preemptively saying that we can't do anything about it. He needs to have consequences for his actions and not just a refusal to hold him accountable because he'll "be a martyr."

[–] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I didn't say anything about him not deserving it - in the past, he did call for violence himself and spread hateful beliefs, which I do think makes him deserving of violence as well (since he did break the social contract, intolerance of intolerant type of deal), but my point is that if he were to die due to an assassination, it would make things worse. Even now I've seen my relatives who are brainrot-facebook-conversative types being like "he was shot because he spoke the truth", and it doesn't seem to be an uncommon sentiment.

Sadly, it's not an easy problem to solve.

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