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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

I wouldn't wanted to have inherited Argentina's economy. It's a seems more of a clusterfuck the more I hear about how it has been running for years.

[–] roboto -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes but Milei aka Argentine’s Trump deserves every bad news.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't see wishing suffering on Argentinians as anything but repugnant.

So let me hear it. What would you do to so wonderfully fix the economy that an expert is getting all wrong?

Or is this just typical Lemmy choosing your side and ignoring anything that is contradictory to it? Why wouldn't you want an expect to run the economy is such trying times?

[–] johan@feddit.nl 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't you want an expert to run the economy is such trying times?

Because this so-called expert is a danger to the the common Argentine. His way of "fixing" the economy is by growing inequality, privatizing key government duties and destroying unions.

I personally disagree with him on many points, such as:

he has called for the elimination or merging of major ministries such as the Ministry of Education, the Ministry of Social Development, the Ministry of Women, Genders and Diversity, and the Ministry of Health.

Milei articulates a critical view of the role of the state in economic matters, calling it "the greatest enemy of wealth"

Milei wants to privatize public health care providers

Milei has expressed support for legalizing organ trade

Also, he is president of the country, not just the economy. I totally disagree with him on points like:

A supporter of law-and-order politics, Milei endorses the unrestricted ownership of firearms

Milei opposes both abortion and euthanasia ... Milei holds that abortion is morally indefensible, even in cases of rape

He intends to eliminate the law that makes comprehensive sex education (CSE) in schools mandatory, which he has linked to brainwashing, and said that students are "hostages of a system of state indoctrination"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Javier_Milei

regarding your comment:

So let me hear it. What would you do to so wonderfully fix the economy that an expert is getting all wrong?

This is a fallacy. It is of course not necessary to know the right answer in order to know that another answer is wrong. I might not know what 483 × 749 is, but I know it's not 10. Or 100. Or 1000.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fact is the countries budget, economy, the investment, it's view from the rest of the world is in a complete and utter shambles. It's in a state that most countries won't see ever. That requires drastic action.

This is not the option between doing nothing and doing something.

Something has to be done and something has been done. You're being critical of change that was required.

Personally I hope the lives of Argentina's improve. I wouldn't want to wish that misery just so I could say an expert on the matter is wrong.

It's not a fallacy at all. It just shows you know nothing about the subject. You come across as man screaming at the scientist because there is no way they could have gone to the moon because you don't understand it. You don't know how to go to the moon but you "know" it's wrong. You got the feelings and that's all that matters.

I'm sorry you dislike a guy so much. But I bet you got a million and one reasons why communism is great and all its failings can be explained with endless excuses.

[–] roboto 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So I checked out Google scholar and to be honest for the alleged 20 years of being a researcher his contribution to the academic community seems marginal at best. Holding him up to the usual performance metrics, most postdocs in my lab had more citations and I also don’t see articles in big journal. Leaving aside the fact that your whole argument is subject to a logical fallacy your appeal to authority doesn’t seem to appeal to a good authority. He may have been working in the industry and he may have been involved in policy making, but that doesn’t mean he’s any authority when it comes to economics as a scientific discipline.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm not really inclined to listen to someone that has no idea what they are on about verse a literal ex professor. If someone who has any idea what they are on about starts making logical arguments rather than "I don't like him" then I might listen. But you, do you. Have fun.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If someone who has any idea what they are on about starts making logical arguments rather than "I don't like him" then I might listen.

Ironic you said this after being provided a list of logical reasons from someone also in academia.

FYI, it's pointless to lie directly in response to the thing you're saying you'd accept.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

If a country is running a deficit and everyone agree that needs to be fixed. Saying you don't agree that your taxes have gone up and benefits have gone down without providing any alternative is meaningless. It's just whinging.

[–] roboto 3 points 4 months ago

Tell me you’re not a scientist without telling me you’re not a scientist.

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