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I don't understand this weird American obsession with flag. I was looking at some photos of Trump's rallies. Flags everywhere - on shirts, hats, glasses etc. And this bizarre cult of the flag - "it cannot touch the ground" etc.

At the end of the day the flag is just a piece of cloth. If you worship any flag or take offense to any flag, you need to get a life.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Nationalism is part of fascism. Just a FYI, it used to be illegal to make clothes out of the US flag. It's only because of capitalism that it changed. And yes, any nation that goes flag crazy is stupid. Why do people fly a flag at their residence? We know what country we are in.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

There is a reason why you see flags in Germany only for big sporting events usually.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Nationalism is part of fascism.

Being nationalistic in itself doesn't in any way imply fascism.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But nationalism is still a key component of fascism. Or do you know a fascist system that is or was not nationalistic?

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

You're correct, but it's a non sequitur comment. There was no reason to point out the coincidental fact that "nationalism is part of fascism" and they're right to refute the suggestion that fascism is implied by nationalism. It's the other way around.

They may have been trying to implicitly claim that the US is fascist and that's why it's nationalistic. But... that's not what fascism is - fascism is not a collection of traits but a small group of distinct class-collaborationist ideologies. The USA is liberalist, and that has resulted in it being an ultranationalist, militarist, socially-stratified state easily compared with fascist states.