It's never how it works. See, we get a century or so of dictatorships, with each new guy overthrowing the previous and promising to be better, and failing to be.

Somewhere along the line (because for some reason we won't do this in advance) intellectuals will in secret start developing some rules for a public-run government (democracy or sortition are popular), but no political leader or revolutionary leader will be actually willing to try them (because they like the power), until absolutely everyone is tired of the wars and coups because absolutely everyone has close friends and relatives they had to put into the cold ground.

And then the new Communist / Socialist / Anarchist / Whatever United States will rise, since the point is to be able to change the rules without someone shooting someone else.

Which is what happens when either the legislature, executive or courts collapse into corruption and seize power. The four boxes of liberty are a warning the first three (soapbox, ballot box, jury box) are all that keep the ammunition box closed and unused.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah we're a nation of shit people overall. All the more reason collapse is best overall. I'm willing to suffer and die if it means Palestinians and immigrants can be spared

[–] polonius-rex@kbin.run 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (97 children)

but if the right wing took power of america's arsenal i think more Palestinians and immigrants would die

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

Better make sure you support the lefties then if you don’t want a nazi government. Liberals have historically proven themselves to support nazis over leftists during a revolution, I hope you will do differently if you actually believe what you say.

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[–] RIPandTERROR@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

...ah. here it is.