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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is it that the world is so deeply insane?

Surely I'm not the only one who sees it, right?

I mean - as just one example, we have here a country that launched a military invasion of another country, and is now trying to characterize attempts by that country to defend itself as "escalation."

The only possible "logic" behind that is that the Russian position is that the only acceptable thing for Ukraine to do is to meekly submit to Russian rule, and that anything else is such an affront that it justifies even more violence and murder.

That's stark, raving, bug-eyed insane. And it's not some derelict on a street corner spouting that insanity - it's s nation. And it's not the only national level insanity happening - hell - it's not even the only national level insanity happening today. Even as I type this, it's guaranteed that some country or some national level politician somewhere, and probably more than one, is doing or saying something at least as mind-boggling insane as that, and it just keeps going, moment-to-moment, day-to-day.

How does that even work? Seriously - is it some sort of conspiracy of silence or something? Some (potentially unspoken) agreement around the world that yeah, we know that these people are stark staring mad, but let's just pretend that the shit they spew has some merit, mmkay?

Or is it that the rest of the world is so insane that they don't even notice? (Or, it suddenly struck me, so drunk that they don't?)

I just don't get it. It's not even just countries and their leaders doing and saying things that are a bit questionable, but countries and their leaders doing and saying things that are screechingly insane - that don't even bear a passing resemblance to logic, reason, truth or reality. Day in and day out, and without even a whisper about how patently insane it all is.

I don't understand how that's even possible.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

some other countries try to stay diplomatic so talks are still possible when russia is ready to surrender. they have professional politicians who hold back instead of lashing out, even if they want to.

also, many countries didn't expect war and were low on war supplies. then many of them are also giving their supplies to Ukraine and have even less, but can probably still defend against russia or others, but it's more risky. in that situation they ask that their weapons aren't fired into russian territorry for two reasons: (1) so russia has less reason to attack them in their slightly weakened state and (b) so russia can't find parts of their weapons and develop countermeasures or copy their tech.

russia knows this, of course and they are losing the war. it's just the question how many years it will take. so because of reason 1 they try to threaten the Ukraine supplier countries to stop them sending weapons. And those countries know it's outrageous how russia behaves, but their politiciancs act cool and won't call out the insanity, so negotiations for russias surrender will be possible as soon as possibble.