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[–] AChiTenshi@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I think their are two bridge crew members where it could have been interesting if either was gay.

The first is Tovok. Having a Vulcan show its illogical to deny attraction to the same sex would be fun. The downside here is how reserved the character is, so it likely wouldn't come up all that often in the show.

The second is Harry Kim. It would have been fun for him to be interested in Tom but Tom has no interest in him that way. We'd get a few episodes, may even a season of Harry pining for him before giving up and ending up best friends. Then we get Tom trying to set Harry up with people.

I don't even think either of these would have changed things much overall.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Tuvok has been with another man and didn't want it to stop. I mean, it was a transporter accident, but still.

[–] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 1 points 5 months ago

#Justice4Tuvix!

[–] concrete_baby@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Crew romance doesn't play a big role in Voyager tbh, gay or not. The only proper relationship we see fleshed out is between B'Elanna and Tom Paris. We hear about Tuvok's wife, Janeway's fiance, and whatever that is between Seven and Chakotay.

It will be interesting to see Harry dating men but I don't see a pairing on the bridge.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago

'Resolutions' called, it wants to build up a relationship between Janeway and Chakotay and then throw it away never to be heard from again.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a cishet white male who dislikes Voyager, I would absolutely have enjoyed a clueless straight Tom Paris trying to set gay Harry up.

Instead he turned into a fish and kidnapped Janeway to, and I will be very gracious to the writing staff here, have consensual offspring with her.

Why did I tell myself I needed to watch that show? Worst trek. 😢

Edit: Also, good on Kate Mulgrew for being way more Star Trek than most by advocating for inclusion. I do like Janeway.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

One of the reasons that Voyage's writing is so terrible is because all of the good ideas got knocked back. For example the ship was supposed to get progressively more damaged over time, patched up with improvised repairs. That's why the engineer was a Marquee, because they were used to having to do that sort of thing so they'd have experience that Starfleet engineers wouldn't have. That's why she was promoted over a Starfleet engineer. In the rewrite none of that comes through and it looks a bit pointless.

But they decided that was too expensive, so they didn't do it. In all fairness to them with the special effects they had at the time, it would have been extremely expensive, but it would have made the show so much better.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah. They were supposed to have a year of hell. The best they could do was a two parter where everything went back to normal in the end.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think they'd be more likely to say homosexuality is illogical and repress it. Could make an interesting plot point.

Versus "suppressing our emotions - the thing we do constantly which essentially defines our species - is illogical". I really don't see that making sense in universe.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I think they'd be more likely to say homosexuality is illogical and repress it. Could make an interesting plot point.

The converse is that making a specific distinction based on sexuality like that is also illogical in what is supposedly the enlightened 24th century Federation.

They're not the ancients of the 21st century, who would be so concerned with such primitive things.