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[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There is a need for a casual space that isn't enshittified by corporate interests like Reddit, and usable by mainstream people who don't use Arch btw.

That’s your opinion. in my opinion, what we need most is a space for actual free speech, uncomfortable and unpopular (for the elites) speech, because everywhere else on the internet is moderated to all hell and owned by capitalists. We need an anti capitalist space. Lemmy is the only one I know of so far that makes that possible. Mainstream people have the entire fucking internet why do they need a space that actually allows real leftist thought and expression?

I am banned on every single corporate owned social media network for being anti capitalist, anti imperialist, and anti fascist.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Isn't that what Lemmy.ml, or even more so Lemmygrad and hexbear, are all about? And others too, like in the USA there's Midwest.social.

One issue is that the left eats its own, in its relentless pursuit after moral purity (the right does the same, it seems more a condition of extremism perhaps than which side that lies on). Another is that we think that the leopards surely won't eat our faces off. Part of what both of these facts mean is that e.g. neither neoliberals nor true free thinkers are allowed to criticize the formerly communist nations on those instances - they are in charge so it's their way or the highway, bc their brand of leftism is actually fascism in disguise.

Therefore if you are more anarchist than leftist, lemmy.dbzer0.com does seem like a good fit. Hopefully you can enjoy the communities there, like leftymemes and flippanarchy, I personally enjoy yepowertrippinbastards very much!:-) There may be a lot more lurkers than posters there though.

However, when you go into Lemmy.World spaces, yeah I do think that there is an expectation that it will cater to more of a mainstream audience? As it straight-up says in its sidebar text, "Be polite and follow the rules ⚖".

Also, people who are autistic may not be the best ambassadors to spread messages to those who are neurotypical, and similarly strong leftists may not be able to naturally reach centrists (without extreme consideration of the differences between the POVs), and so on. At which point ~~we~~ you are just venting your frustrations onto others, oftentimes against their consent?

Which ironically seems against the spirit of anarchy to me, but I definitely don't claim to be an expert on the subject and possibly there's something I'm not understanding there. Then again the sidebar text itself seems to confirm somewhat by stating: "When going to other communities, respect their rules AND our rules when they are more restrictive. Do not give cause for others to de-federate our instance please."

So even if only for purely practical reasons - i.e. if you don't enjoy being censored (who does), you may want to find a more suitable outlet for your anger? As do we all. There is much upheaval in the world and people need to find a way to deal. Like, helping people leave Reddit:-), rather than driving them back to it if we scare them here with extremism:-(.