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[–] GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Haha, funny way to say "working in the lead mines", comrade.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comrade, we all know lead poisoning and the need for safety gear are capitalist propaganda! Now, get back in the mines! Production must increase 50% this year, and your state-appointed union representative says it can!

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know, it took until 2003 for Russia to remove leaded gasoline from stations. The Soviets never did it LMFAO

but nice try

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

EDIT: based on another commenter, OP's claim isn't even factual.

And it took the US until 1996 (after fall of USSR)? Not to mention that it was capitalism (General Motors) that spread the hoax about leaded gasoline being safe, under the guise of scientific research in 1921.

This is not the gotcha you think it is.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was joking, save your whataboutism for “serious” arguments

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are not joking. You can see them continuing here: https://lemm.ee/comment/3563759

And this isn't whataboutism (not that it matters). The first commenter ridiculed socialism by using a hypothetical scenario. The second commenter showed with evidence this hypothetical scenario is actually real under capitalism.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When a liberal loses an argument they yell "whataboutism" it's their little white flag

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, America did bad thing, clearly this completely overrides the wrongs of other countries

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The first commenter is talking a hypothetical scenario of socialism being bad, so the second commenter (the one you responded to) responded with actual example of that same hypothetical scenario happening, but except by a capitalist power (the US). I don't think your response makes sense at all here.

[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, his response is calling out the whataboutism fallacy. The US doing something bad does not in any way, shape, or form make socialism any less shitty. It's poking fun at the delusional people who still think it's a good ideology despite the overwhelming evidence.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Calling something "Whataboutism" infers a belief in American exceptionalism. You should question that belief.

[–] Gorilladrums@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you're just an idiot. Whataboutism is simply a fallacy. It doesn't infer anything outside of inconsistent logic. If you feel threatened by it then it just shows that you're disingenuous.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Explain the logical flaw in this thread's exchange. Bonus: If you're going with tu quoque, explain it without putting words into anyone's mouth.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2022/03/is-whataboutism-always-a-bad-thing