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The driver ... came to Germany in 2006. But he is not an Islamist ... on the contrary: He was apparently a radical critic of Islam and sympathized with the AfD โ€“ and Elon Musk.

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[โ€“] Saleh 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Something the Tagesspiegel won't mention. The suspect also supported Israels annexation of Palestinian Land and annihilation of Palestinians, as well as Israels invasion of Syria on his twitter account. This could be relevant as Palestinians have some of the oldest christian communities and places like Bethlehem are in occupied Palestinian land.

Please excuse the indirect source. His twitter profile wasn't accessible for me this morning. https://www.instagram.com/p/DD0eEcItXjI/?igsh=bjk2dGRrMXdmdXN1

The amalgamation of Islamophobia/Radical anti-religiousness, Fascism and Imperialism is now also killing native Europeans directly. This is an inevitable result of these ideologies centered around devaluing human life.

[โ€“] Melchior 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

He is a raised Muslim who turned atheist from Saudi Arabia. Doing that carries the death penalty in there, so he fled to Germany. That is a pretty decent reason to hate Islam. So when AFD and other far right idiots like Musk claim Europe is taken over by Muslims, then somebody like that can absolutely loose his mind. It is also in line with wanting Israel to conquer as much land in the region as possible. He was heavily discriminated by a Islamic government, so wanting a guy like that preferring Israel over Muslim rule is logical.

[โ€“] Saleh 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He called for people to oppressed, discriminated and murdered. It seems he wanted everyone dead who he considered to not follow his will. If he wants freedom of religion for himself, he would have to grant it to everyone else too.

The only "logic" in there is egomania. And that is where these ideologies come together. They deem one group or person superior to others based on arbitrary categories.

Given how direct some of his statements were, including his calls for "revenge" on Germans and that he has been making these sort of statements for years, it is quite concerning that there was no earlier action by the police against him. We've seen these kind of "blind spots" with a lot of Nazi terrorism in Germany, like around the NSU terror cell and its vast network of supporters.

[โ€“] Melchior 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Logical is not the same as moral.

[โ€“] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're confusing logical with consequential or traceable. Like, you can track his path to madness and see each step being a consequence of the environment he lived in, but that doesn't make his decision logical. They're still highly irrational.

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