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I emailed Jean Paul Gaultier to ask if their cosmetics are vegan, and found out that bees are not animals and that they're appropriate for vegetarians. (lemmy.vg)

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[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

they can literally leave at any time - and occasionally do.

Isn't clipping the wings of the queen fairly common practice? That's what keeps the bee hive in place, from what I understand.

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's illegal in most countries and frowned upon by most beekeepers. It happens, sure, but it's absolutely not "fairly common practice."

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s illegal in most countries and frowned upon by most beekeepers.

Could you please give me a source on the legality? Can't seem to find anything. From my own google-fu, it seems it's a controversial practice, with different beekeeper blogs laying out the pros and cons. It looks very much like an ongoing discussion rather than a clean "It's bad, don't do it ever" like declawing is for cats, for example.

Considering putting pigs (who are known to be smarter than dogs) into gas chambers to suffocate to death while their lungs burn is 100% legal in the EU, I would be absolutely astonished if they actually had a strong animal welfare stance on bees.