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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I say: The only way to fix healthcare is to do what a wise man did and [Redacted by lemmy.world Admins]!

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That wise man didn’t change a thing tho.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

but he did. the oligarchs are terrified and have spent the last two weeks spreading misinformation to make people like you believe nothing changed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KksWzAFiojU&t=20

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So then describe all the things that changed.

Oligarchs are scared because they think social unrest will break out. Except it wont because our society is full of weak people.

Meanwhile insurance companies are still taking your premium while at the same time denying you of life saving claims.

Grats.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

so you admit something changed. just because it wasn't the outcome you wanted doesn't mean nothing changed.

civil unrest is shows that people are taking notice.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But there isn’t civil unrest. They are just afraid of it. If that was the change you were looking for then good for you I guess.

Unfortunately our community is just as manipulated, exploited, and vulnerable than it ever has been and that is only getting worse. Since that part hasn’t changed, I’d say everything else is just irrelevant.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm going to level with you, because it's clear to me that nobody has done this for you.

the change you're waiting for won't ever happen, at least not in the timeline you want it in.

systemic change requires time and voices. civil unrest brings voices together against a common threat.

what the killing of Brian did is focus the public eye onto a real problem of healthcare. now that it's in the public interests it's getting discussed. they are trying to quiet it down and not fan the flames, in hopes the fires of rebellion die.

by saying "nothing has changed" you're just acting as an unwitting pawn in their game to strangle the voice of the people.

don't be a pawn, discuss what has changed and why Brian was killed.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago

Cool. Here’s the thing tho. We need more than discussion. Because like you said things aren’t going to change otherwise. It’s been all talk and no game for decades.

[–] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

I don't think an uprising is going to break out tomorrow as an immediate reaction to his actions.

But at the very least he got a lot of people talking and thinking. People who a year or two ago would call someone "complaining" about the health conglomerates and the way we're getting fucked crazy.

I was that person called crazy, and now my whole family, neighbors, friends, coworkers are fucking pissed and finally waking up. People who I never thought would.

It certainly doesn't stop at health insurance, we're getting killed from 100 different angles. But he got people talking.

But imagine... if we all, I mean everyone just [Reacted By lemmy.world Admins]