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[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I think that is true for some of the people involved, but I think it is much more complicated than that. There are many people who think vaccines do more harm than good because they believe conspiracy theories and junk science. Not everyone against vaccines is malicious. Some must be, though, for such bullshit to keep propagating the way that it does.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 49 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Most of Trump's cabinet ranges from morally indifferent to outright hostile to human beings. The only exception I think I see is RFK Jr. who is just batshit insane.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Agreed. It takes more than Trump, his cabinet, and MAGA to get here, though. It requires complicity and complacency from a ton of other people.

[–] sexy_peach 6 points 5 days ago

Yeah I think those other people are conspiracy theorists, like you said.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago

Yep. Biden and Harris come to mind, as does the rest of the Democratic establishment. If they didn't prefer Trump to Bernie, this would be a much sweeter timeline.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Hey! Whoa! Speaking as a member of the batshit insane community, don't you try to dump him off as one of us! He's clearly in the "manipulated puppet" camp. Or at the very least the Kennedys camp. Those guys were always their own bunch to begin with. I mean JFK brought us inches away from WWIII and then said "Peace out bitches! I'm dying by suicide!"

Then he faked his own death, and moved to Boston, where nobody would recognize him.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Don't sell RFK Jr short. He might be crazy but he's also an evil POS.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I'm just going to keep repeating this. RFK killed 20 Samoan children with an anti vaccine campaign.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

What is quite scary is that it doesnt have to be vaccines, they could be convinced of anything given time and right approach.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I disagree. People are always assholes first and then look for rationalisations for their assholery. All that conspiracy bullshit always leads back to racism and antisemitism.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Please explain how the earth being flat, birds not being real, bigfoot, ufo's, and the moonlanding being a hoax have ANYTHING to do with racism and antisemitism.