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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You have no more ability to get me to to vote Biden than you do to get a Trump voter to change their vote.

Disagree. I can't coerce neither of you, of course, and as you said I'm not entitled to anyone's fault, but I'm still allowed to argue on and internet and try to make people see reason. And for that, I have a "leverage" on you that I don't have on a Trump voter - the proposition that you don't want a conservative dystopia.

(Of course, if you do want a conservative dystopia consider my entire argument null and void)

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And for that, I have a “leverage” on you that I don’t have on a Trump voter - the proposition that you don’t want a conservative dystopia.

Again, wrong on both counts. I'm already not supporting a conservative dystopia so you don't have that leverage over me. Meanwhile, there are many people who vote Trump don't intend to support a conservative dystopia, so you would have leverage over them.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m already not supporting a conservative dystopia so you don’t have that leverage over me.

You are not actively supporting it, but you are not making the minimal effort to oppose it either.

there are many people who vote Trump don’t intend to support a conservative dystopia

Why are they voting for the candidate who promises a conservative dystopia then?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Why are they voting for the candidate who promises a conservative dystopia then?

You're vastly overestimating the level of political literacy of the average American, let alone the average Trump voter.