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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You really haven't showed me a flaw in my assumption that the Allah Muslims claim to exist is an asshole.

[–] k110111@feddit.de 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't think i can convince/prove to you that he isn't but my intention is show that you can't prove he is as well. In the end, you believing him to be an asshole is just that, a belief.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure why you think that's some great revelation. My believing I'm not a brain in a vat dreaming that I'm having a conversation with you is just a belief. I can't assume anything about anything. It's all belief.

However, I think I have proved sufficiently that by any moral standard, he would be considered an asshole. You defended it by saying he rewards them more after death.

Like I said, if I stab you in the eye and then give you $1000, I'm still the asshole that stabbed you in the eye.

Similarly, if Allah lets 1000 of his most faithful die agonizingly in the heat while doing what he commands of them but then rewards them later, he's still the asshole who let them die agonizingly. The reward doesn't make up for it.

[–] k110111@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You called Allah an asshole and i just showed you that it is not the objective truth, it is just an opinion.

Your analogy of stabbing in the eye, does not fully apply mainly because you have applied your own limitations on it. If Allah is the creator then he can very easily make the whole process of "eye stabbing" pleasant and painless and then "the stabbed" gets the eternal reward. Which does not sound bad.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

And yet the asshole god didn't make those 1000 people's deaths pleasant and painless, did he?

Sounds like an asshole to me.

And I love that is your defense.